Oh, and I'm not using a dishwasher initially, but I did mention to them that I'd like the space for a dishwasher in case I decide on one in the future. It's just that it will only be my dishes, and so many things don't want to be washed in a dishwasher, anyway, so I figured I'd do without. I told the design place to remove one of the 30" base cabinets and leave a 24" open space, and expand the other base cabinet to 36". I'll use the open space for a cart on wheels that will hold my garbage and recyclables, assuming I can make that look good.