Went to futureshop today with USB firmware upgrade in hand. Made some new pals. smile ATMOS achievement inlocked! There was no mistaking the effect once it was working correctly.

I messed around with the Dolby ATMOS demo disc and then the first chapter of Expendables 3.

The difference between ATMOS vs TrueHD is substantial. The Dolby surround upmixer is also very worthwhile and robust from my brief but intent testing of trailers before expendables. I messed around for an hour or so.

I want it! laugh

The pioneer SC-85/upfiring Elite speaker combo isnt the best I've heard, but the demo was still very pleasing. I would have to wait till I can afford a next gen receiver with more gutz than the pioneer had on hand. Not that it was distorting, but sounded pretty thin to my ears. I finally have good gear I had to save up for, and now have to save to upgrade for immersive. The cycle repeats. frown The VISA taunts....

Wait, drywall first dummy! wink