Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions HELP! Need Ammunition.

Jack, I understand what you want.

The only way to get it is through fact and explanation. That goes back to something I posted earlier, there needs to be explanations from those taking and posting the measurements.

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...there needs to be explanations from those taking and posting the measurements.

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On this point we completely agree.

What I WANT is for him, and others, to back up irresponsible, malicious accusations of unethical behavior with proof, or refrain from making them. What facts and explanations do I present to achieve that?

I forget who first said this, but :

"It is impossible to reason a man out of a position which he did not reason himself into in the first place".

This is usually the point where we would take the other party outside and beat some sense into them. This is not practical on the Internet so the threads go on forever. I don't think there is a good answer other than trying your best then walking away.

Well now... wait a minute! Is it really not practical? Let's think about this for a minute.OK the minute is up.I'm ready, who"s with me?
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Road Trip !!

avsforum is not a bad place to get advice. But their are people there who are quite intent on bashing products. I saw the thread and i take it just how it is. Just a guy with nothing better to do. He has no crudentals to be making any comparisons for any products. If it was a sceintific finding done by electronic enginers. Mabey then it would have some merit.
I find it funny that people are able to post such things without having consulted the product owners. The worst thing about it is who is this guy to post any tests. At least if your going to do tests have a degree stating you can do this properly. Or else keep it to yourself.
i not to long ago had a run in with outlaw fanatics. I stated i prefered my avm30 and mca30 amps instead of the outlaw 990 and all hell broke out. But to stay on topic its just a bunch of he said she said stuff with very little merit. The guy who posted this thread on avs. is probaly watching the axiom board loving how he ruffled everybodys feathers. i love the sound my axioms have and thats the main thing. But it drives me nuts to see stuff like that too. but what can you do.

John, that was Peter's sig for a while. I like it too.

Anybody remember GeneticDrift, ProTech, TechPro, MarkB, TonyGeno, Streem speakers, et al?

Jack, you've got to let it go. Briefly point out the logical incoherence of casting such ridiculous aspersions and move on. Let your eloquence and concision prevail, but don't wallow in the minutiae.

Never try to teach a pig to dance; you both get dirty, but the pig likes it.

i see the post has been closed by the administrator. Which is very good. Must have stepped on to many toes with there so called graphs. Half them are probaly salesmen for competing speaker companys.

Hi!
Don't know if I am entirely correct here,factually or politically, but anyone who's nit-picking on the response curves of a loudspeaker, not caring how it sounds and goes far enough to say,"Just as a consumer, I don't enjoy being lied to... I believe that if you say your product does X and Y, it should do X and Y....", is missing the whole point! Still, I commend Ajax for taking the time to respond,with facts, and Ian for explaining how things work!

Not to worry I got my nephew Vito and a couple of his goombah's takin care of it.
Road kill?