Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo Pioneer 563 vs. Nad 541....CD player challenge!!

And I'll take a CD copy that doesn't degrade with each listen, that doesn't have more added noise, that doesn't have a recessed top end, that costs me nothing over an LP anyday.

I must addmit I have flirted with the thought of getting back into lps but the main factor for me was storage.I really don't have the room for them.Plus to do it right the cost of a good player isn't exactly cheap.

Do yourself a favor and get a turntable. I have had more people come over to my house talking about how horrible vinyl is and how superior cd is and leave telling me how wrong they were. I have numerous copies on both cd and vinyl which I play as demonstrations. Also, it is a misconception that you will have noise and popping while you play your records. Yes, some lp's will have some noise, but most play brilliantly. Most people who knock vinyl don't have a system and base their knowledge on their old turntables. Having said all that, modern music recorded digitally doesn't sound very good on vinyl and I still continue to purchase newer music on cd.

Just out of curiosity and being in the mood to ask a dumb question ..

Are there any differences in the manufacturing process of vinal LPs today than say like 25 or more years ago, i.e. better and longer lasting materials and etc.?

I'll answer your question with another dumb question. Do they even still MAKE vinyl LPs ? I haven't seen one in a store for a long time... and the only people I know with LPs are just voices on the internet (no offence guys ).

bridgman, musicdirect.com is a good source for vinyl. I get a newletter from them all the time and they advertise new releases on vinyl. I think a lot are imports. I don't know about the quality though.

Good to know. Thanks !!

They definitely still make vinyl. Tool have just released their "Lateralus" album on vinyl, and all of their others were also available on it. Also, along with the 30th Anniversary Dark Side of the Moon SACD there was a new vinyl edition.

So, yeah, still being made. And I don't know about the quality either. I know when I go through my father's old records some are very thin and flimsy, while others are more substantial. They know how to put art on the vinyl itself now, but maybe they've known how for awhile...Lateralus.

John, yes, LP recordings are still made and bought by collectors interested in that format(less than 1% of music sales). The technology is clearly obsolescent and isn't competitive with digital CD technology with respect to accuracy in reproducing 20-20,000 Hz with inaudibly low noise and distortion.

...and wow, and flutter, and groove swish...

I do miss "real" album art, though. The artistry on a 12 inch long playing vinyl record sleeve was so often beautiful.

BTW a lot of new punk and power pop is released on vinyl still. Fat Wreck Chords has a "Fat Club" you can join where they send you a new 7" every month and a lot of Me First and the Gimme Gimmes stuff is released solely on vinyl.

Bren R.