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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109065 09/13/05 04:07 AM
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I can't help you on this one. I run my entire system flat and love the sound the Yamaha puts out on my Rockets. I have the EQ off, tone control is bypassed etc.

No nothing and I find I get a nice balance of highs and lows.

Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109066 09/13/05 06:39 PM
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I think I just needed to step away from it last night. Went back at it dinner time today and I'm having more luck with the EQ. Got the fronts dialed in better, now have to tackle the rest.







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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109067 09/13/05 09:21 PM
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Ahh, yes.. food sometimes helps the ears break-in faster.

Bren R.

Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109068 09/15/05 12:51 AM
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well, I'm home today. Darn flu
Good news is this means I finally had some uninterrupted time to sit down and tweak the yammie

Movies sound awesome'
Music awesome
Even games are awesome on xbox as I have been known to play one from time to time

All said and done, I'm finally content.... i think




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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109069 09/15/05 01:22 AM
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I read one report (audioholics report that was otherwise positive) that, with all channels driven, it was "only" capable of about 40 watts per channel.

Looks like, once again, we have under rated power supplies.

Any comments.


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109070 09/15/05 02:38 AM
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Yeah I have read that review, and there are a few simple error's in it other then the power rating that makes me wonder if they have a clue to begin with. We don't even know if the 40 watts rating was done with the ohm switch set to 8 or 6

If the NAD is a true 110w receiver like they claim, and the yamaha that I replaced it with is keeping up with it without any issues, I am questioning the validity of that one review.

ratpack, how big is your room?


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109071 09/15/05 04:49 AM
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Bernard, as always, the main point is that the 4600 meets its power rating, which is with two channels driven simultaneously at full power for 5 minutes. In the real world of home use this gives excellent results and the fact that around 40 watts are delivered with all channels driven simultaneously should be of no interest outside the test lab.


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109072 09/15/05 07:03 AM
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In reply to:

I am questioning the validity of that one review




You and me both.

I'm in the same boat as you. The NAD has rave reviews all over the place about it's "Real World" power and the Yamaha keeps up with it just fine. Makes me go hmmmmmmm?

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#109073 09/15/05 07:07 AM
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In reply to:

I read one report (audioholics report that was otherwise positive) that, with all channels driven, it was "only" capable of about 40 watts per channel.




I never read the report you are talking about but do they happen to mention how many channels they had running to get the 40 watt number? Was it all 7 plus the two effect channels or two, five etc etc etc? I would be curious to know.


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#109074 09/15/05 08:01 AM
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John, I don't think that Bernard meant to refer to the Audioholics test in connection with the 40 watt per channel figure. Gene DellaSala and his colleagues recognize the lack of reality in the "all channels driven" measurement and they report 1 and 2 channel numbers as being more in line with what is important in the home(as the experience you and Steve had with the 4600 also indicates). Bernard may have been thinking of the Secrets review which I linked about a week ago here . As you'll note, Dr. Johnson measured 138 watts into 8 ohms with 2 channels driven(apparently meeting the 130 watt rating)and 38.3 watts with 5 channels driven. Despite a couple of slightly condescending remarks about "mass market" equipment and a couple of factual errors it was in general a favorable review. Subjective impressions aside, there's no good reason to suspect that the lab measurements weren't correct, within normal limits of measurement error and sample-to-sample variations. Of course, those results and the somewhat similar ones in S&V on the 74TXVi were met with near-hysteria on some other boards from those who would still demand that the full rated power be delivered simultaneously in all channels for 5 continuous minutes, despite the lack of relevance to home use.


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