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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109055 09/07/05 02:49 PM
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>>Is there some technical reason on screen displays from receivers/processors don't work with anything but S-video? What gives? I think I'm the only person on Earth still using S-vid for everything. And with a single input TV...

Huh ? Wha ?

Uh-oh, I didn't know this. I was helping my brother-in-law wire up his basement for a soon-to-be home theater and I figured we could run the OSD across the component cables. We ran a spare coax so I guess worst case we could run the OSD across composite (like I do today, my TV having been built before the introduction of S-video ) but this is a problem.

Related question then, if you have a TV or projector and have to run multiple inputs to it (eg. HDMI + component +...) do you have to manually switch the projector or do they have some kind of "gee, I only have signals on one connector so I'll switch to that one" capability ?


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109056 09/07/05 06:26 PM
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In reply to:

We ran a spare coax so I guess worst case we could run the OSD across composite


Even then, I don't think most send over composite... you'd have to use the S-vid out, with a s-vid to composite adapter (or just tie the luma and chroma lines together on a 4 pin connector, the 7 pin connector already carries composite on one of the inner pins - all these lines already carry the sync so no worries there!)

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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109057 09/08/05 02:54 AM
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Well, the Nad is packed away. Looks like it's going back. I spent the evening playing with the yammie and I am impressed. STill can't believe I'm buying a yammie, but here we are.

Hate the f$#$%#$ yamaha remote. Even hate the zone 2 remote. There, I said it. It's junk, not even remotely easy to setup, and just plain confusing. That's alright though, now I have an excuse to get the harmony 890 rf model

I was sad to pack the nad away in some ways. It's built like a tank, and I was reminded just that as I was lifting it back into the enormous box. It's too bad it's missing the sound I wanted from it. I always had a concern with the lack of optical connections on the back ,and very limited feature list and poor gui. But, I was willing to give all that up for a good powerful sounding amp. And, that is what it is, just not the sound that "I" am looking for. The Nad has a nice dynamic sound, great seperation effects, perhaps sometimes better then the yamaha. But, in the end, the EQ in the yamaha wins, and I can get the highs/bass out of my axioms much better then the Nad ever could. I really liked the NAD's remote, very easy to use/setup ( The entire receiver is easy actually....the yamaha is not) and the ability to trim channels on the fly alone is something I will miss.

I ran the yamaha all night with it blasting loud. Mostly playing pop, top 40, dance, and even some rap. Had the bass cranked on max, just trying to really push it. I had the fan set to always on. I thought this was only fair as the NAD's 5, yes 5, mini fans are on constantly as well. The Yamaha does get a bit warmer, but honestly....not enough to care. With the fan off it gets noticeably warmer. Since my stuff is in a equipment closet anyways, I don't need to care about noise, so I'll leave the fan on always....not like it's loud anyways. One thng the yamaha does not have, and that is no HISSSSSSS. The nad does have some hiss there, and a little tiny hum. Although I got rid of most of the hum when I switched to a dedicated 15amp circuit.

Bottom line is, the Yamaha is giving me all the volume I "need". Plus, every source can be eq'd to whatever degree I Want, and set to memory. With the Nad, I could have gotten eq's for each channel, but we are talking $$$$$. I'd rather just use the yammie as a pre and get a 3 channel amp down the road. I think in the end that'll give me a better overall system with more options, connectivity and so on. Although, I have to be honest, if I ever do get a power amp, its really only for piece of mind at this stage, as the yamaha is good enough for me and my basement. But, I would really like to open up the m80's and I had planned on getting an external amp even for the nad at some point. Right now I only have 5.1 fyi and can not test 7.1


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109058 09/08/05 06:18 AM
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Hey, Never... crank that sucker up at about 8:30pm or so, that's about the time I expect to be rolling into your fair city tomorrow (Thurs)... unfortunately just a stop for a bar show then headed out to Weyburn for a few days of R&R or I'd offer that beer...

Unless you wanted to meet me at the Pump (Budweiser True Music Tour)...

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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109059 09/08/05 02:17 PM
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Sorry but did you say R&R in Weyburn? Dude there is nothing to do in Weyburn! but then again, if you want true R&R, that's not a bad place to do it.

Let me see how tonight is looking and I may just pop in. I know a few of the owners of the Pump so getting in the back door is always easy.

Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109060 09/08/05 11:45 PM
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well, I have my first problem. And It's a big one. If I run 720p through the 4600, and then to the pj, i am getting waves all over the place. Vertical waves, scrolling horizontally. 1080 is fine, and 480i/p are fine

Changed cables, even plugged the projector into another circuit.

NH, can you test yours? It's more noticeable on dark or back colored scenes.


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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109061 09/09/05 02:23 AM
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nevermind. Was a darn ground loop problem. waves are gone




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Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109062 09/09/05 03:19 AM
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I was just about to post and say mine works fine! lol

Glad you got it worked out.

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#109063 09/12/05 05:32 AM
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Continuing a thread hijack:
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Sorry but did you say R&R in Weyburn? Dude there is nothing to do in Weyburn! but then again, if you want true R&R, that's not a bad place to do it.


Well, it was as close as I can get to R&R - I get bored easily... other people can sit on a beach, I get bored and need a different type of busywork, so I went out there to help a good friend settle in, get some stuff set up and built for her (she just moved back there from REAL smalltown SK) got her computer back up and running, all that fun stuff - hardworking single mom of two great little kids, so doesn't exactly have a ton of extra money around for handimen. This handigoon comes cheap. *laughs*

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Let me see how tonight is looking and I may just pop in. I know a few of the owners of the Pump so getting in the back door is always easy.


Not sure if you did or not, since I didn't know anyone there besides the band, I spent most of the night in the band room (and couldn't partake of any of the Budweiser sponsored free beer - darned probationary periods!).

Bren R.

Re: Yamaha RX-V 4600
#109064 09/13/05 01:00 AM
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I might change my name to Neverhappytoo yet

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! is all I got to say.

I'm going nuts!!!

The NAD was great for music, once I used an eq for it. Horrible for games on the xbox, and somewhere between good and great for movies

the Yamaha is great for movies, and xbox games. But for music I can't quite get the balance of clear highs that don't sound too bright or harsh. I was hoping the internal eq would do what I wanted, but I'm either out right frustrated right now, or confused and have the eq totally messed up ( Which is what I'm guessing). I've even tried leaving the yamaha eq flat and hooking up an external one again, but that doesn't work either. Now I could use two eq's together, but I feel like that is a recipe for a blown tweeter so I would rather not.


I play a game, love the yammie. Watch a movie, love the yammie. Listen to music, miss the nad. How Ironic. Don't get me wrong, it has nothing to do with power.

I got a feeling at some point I'm going to be going back to seperates.




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