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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
#109207 09/15/05 01:27 AM
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High praise indeed! What are we comparing here? One 12" driver in a large cabinet vs.two big cabinets with two 12" drivers in each?

I know this is asking the impossible, but how do you feel the EP600 compares to the Maestro. For those who don't know, Craig had a Maestro from ACI ($2100 with a monster 15" driver), which he found VERY impressive. What I'm asking him to do is compare a sub he's been listening to for weeks (EP600), to one he hasn't heard in months (Maestro). So, keep in mind that anything he has to say is based on his MEMORY of the Maestro.


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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Jack, The Maestro had a lot of the same characteristics of the EP-600. They both (as does the Velodyne DD-18) have the ability to react more quickly than does the SVS pair - and yes, the SVS pair means two 12 inch drivers in two big cabinets.

One area which actually helps the Axiom is the designers made what I consider to be intelligent choices. The Axiom is ALWAYS in the same tune, with the amplifier optimized to match. This tuning gives bass down to about 16 Hz in our large room. The SVS, quite frankly, can go even lower.

But, 99.99% of all bass is 16 Hz and up, and the EP-600, right now, is walking away from the SVS PAIR in real world performance.

Later this fall/winter, when I get a new Hsu VTF-3 HO, I will be trying all three nearfield, for confirmation.



Re: EP-600 Review thread.
#109209 09/15/05 01:44 AM
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Thanks Craig.


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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Wow, sounds like the 600 is the way to go. Like Jack says, thanks Craig for sharing and updating your findings!


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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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You are welcome. By the way, did you see the date for the GTG is officially set for November 19 ?

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The Axiom is ALWAYS in the same tune, with the amplifier optimized to match




I find that an interesting comment.With that being said,would a Stf series have an advantage over a VTF series.


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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Not really ... different design goals. (Good logic, though....). Please allow me to elaborate:

The built in DSP/AMP combo with the EP-600, for lack of better terms, "knows" what the driver is doing at all times. It keeps the driver under control, and also delivers a flat response, even under conditions that cause subwoofers without this type of control to lose audible performance.

The STF-3 and VTF-3 use conventional amps, as does SVS. This is not a knock on either, by the way, for the money, they are both excellent.

It is this "intelligent" amp/dsp set up COMBINED with good physics which works so well for the EP-600.

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Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Wow. If a single EP-600 is noticeably better than a pair of PB12-Ultra/2s, then a pair should be able to kick the pants off pretty much anything else out there -- even subs at ungodly prices. This is very high praise, indeed!

Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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I'm tellin' ya. Dennis, with his two EP600s, is gonna, singlehandedly, cause the big one on the San Andreas fault.

Peter, if I understand Craig correctly, the SVS pair will go deeper, and perhaps even play louder. But, the EP600 is "cleaner," "smoother," "more responsive." I hate trying to subjectify performance. If those terms aren't conveying what your hearing, Craig, feel free to correct me. If I've got it correct, it would all depend upon your personal preferences as to which is "better." I don't know about anyone else, but 16Hz is plenty low enough for me, and I live in an apartment, so I don't need to rattle the windows. BUT, that smooth, clean response sure sounds attractive.


Jack

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