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Re: OT: Katrina and World Support?
#109602 09/06/05 11:14 AM
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Peter, You are a pretty/very intelligent guy. Using Keith Oberman instead of your own brain is no different on the left than someone linking to Sean Hannity would be on the right.

It requires not actual thoughts of your own.

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#109603 09/06/05 01:51 PM
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Well....Despite the differences of opinion regarding HOW the response to Katrina was handled by the government and associated agencies, I would like to report on HOW the public is at least responding here in Austin, Texas.

My family and I went down to the Austin Convention Center to volunteer assisting the over 3,500 evacuees being housed there. We were instructed to fill out a form and leave it with available times and such. We were not able to volunteer yesterday due to HAVING TOO MANY VOLUNTEERS!
This is a blessing to those who are in need (and those working to meet those needs). The Red Cross are going through the lists of those registered as volunteers and compiling a working schedule to allow as many as can volunteer. Medical personnel were allow to go straight through though...as they can use them at any point.

Donations of money, a box of books, a container of stuffed animals, donations of your time to volunteer, ALL HELP in making a terrible tragedy something not so terrible for those who lived it.

Help in whatever way you can even if it is small...IT ALL HELPS.

Thanks to those who have and continue to help.

WhatFurrer


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Re: OT: Katrina and World Support?
#109604 09/06/05 02:27 PM
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Here are a couple of pictures which will have people acratching their heads ... The first shows all the incoming lanes on I-10 are empty. In an evac, those lanes should be used, because if you think about it, noone is coming IN.

The second shows some of the unused school buses which COULD have been used to take out those without trasnportation ...





Whatfurrer - Good post. As for why the hundred plus buses went unused, as did the incoming lanes ... Because noone REALLY thought this tragedy was going to occur. It is easy to look back with "we should have done ..... ___________" ...



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Point taken, but what about Krugman?

Also, Barbara Bush is an elitist and a racist. And she raised our President.

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#109606 09/06/05 06:08 PM
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Krugman is a reknown political hack. His Op Ed pieces consistantly disagree with non-Op Ed papers he has published.

On Barbara Bush - I'll agree she is elitist, as most super-wealthy are, but racist? That's a pretty harsh liberal rhetoric

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Peter - Ripping on an 80 year old woman ? Unbelieveable.

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Peter - Ripping on an 80 year old woman ? Unbelieveable.


Age is a factor in whether or not someone should be held to task for their character flaws, especially someone puppeteering what many consider to be the most powerful man in the world?

Hear that right-wing media? Leave Noam Chomsky alone, he's... old...

Bren R.

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Bren - First, We are not talking a "character flaw", we are talking about excerpts from her comments yesterday.

Second, I addressed Peter directly, not the "left wing media".

So, I will make it more pointed, any man slamming an 80 year old woman for being "elitist and racist" for what she supposedly said yesterday (and yes, this is assuming the press even got her words correct and complete) is a bully.

If that was said about my 70 year old mother, I would knock whoever said it on his ass.

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You can't be serious, craigsub. Unless her actions are a result of senility -- and I suppose there's a slight chance of that -- then I'll 'rip on her' when I feel she deserves it.

How she can possibly think the refugees are better off now is beyond comprehension. Maybe she has no grip on reality any more.

Try to imagine if Hillary Clinton's said that yes, US soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq risk their lives but most of them come from underprivileged backgrounds anyway, so this--this (*chuckles slightly*) is working very well for them because if they survive they won't have to go back to their trailer parks/barrios and the Federal government's hospitality saved them a lot of trouble anyway.
Imagine that -- Drudge, Fox, the Internet right wing thugs would burn her at the stake. And the so-called liberal media would likely follow suit. They'd turn Hillary's mom into this month's Cindy Sheehan -- innocent fodder for another media gangbang.

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craigsub, I'll concede that racist was a bit strong a term. Perhaps classist is a better fit. I stand by my choice of the word elitist, though. That Mother Bush is elitist is not really a surprise. But the fact that she said what she did is highly disturbing.

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