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Re: What did I miss?
#111097 09/19/05 12:27 PM
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Thanks! And congratulations on the concert tickets.

Lucky @#$%.


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Re: What did I miss?
#111098 09/19/05 01:30 PM
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Could we please get back to Diana Krall's legs?

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Re: What did I miss?
#111099 09/19/05 01:47 PM
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>>Man, I am not kidding when I say it sounds like I have a brand new system.

This should be a scary lesson for all of us. How much do you think you would have had to spend on equipment to get the same improvement in sound ?


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Re: What did I miss?
#111100 09/19/05 02:06 PM
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And how much would we have to spend to custom build a home theatre room?


I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
Re: What did I miss?
#111101 09/19/05 03:05 PM
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You know, the funny thing is the entire time I was in Santa Monica I was thinking, "Hmmm. Okay...larger room, hardwood instead of carpet..." and running through a dozen different concerns in my mind. How do I minimize reflections? Do I need to scrape for a set of M60s or 80s? Is my receiver up to the job? What about a BFD? Do I need a separate amp? I bet I could swing a Rotel or maybe a used Parasound...

And I came back to Nashville Friday night and hooked up the M22s and the subs and didn't worry about calibrating. I poured a drink or three, popped in some CDs, and you couldn't have ripped me from the couch with pepper spray and a tazer. It really sounded that good. Saturday was spent doing more mundane things like buying a lawnmower (there goes my ICBM) and a washer & dryer (my M60s).

Sunday finally rolled around and by the end of the afternoon everything was in place and the Avia disc was in the DVD player. It turned out that my Friday night guesstimate on the subs wasn't too far off -- I'd set them 2-3db too high. But after everything was measured and dialed in correctly -- wow.

The question about spending more on equipment to achieve a similar result is certainly valid. I can think of dozens of times at my old apartment when I gave serious thought to what would be the biggest bang for the buck impovement. But what I've come to realize is:
  • You really don't need as much speaker as you think you do.
  • 90wpc is plenty for my room (25 X 14.5).
  • A little extra volume goes a long way -- this starts to slide into the "loudness = improved sound" illusion, but we can tackle that in another post.
  • The room itself makes a HUGE difference.
I still want a pair of M60s, but that's a mixture of upgradeitis and the desire for a slightly "fuller" sound that only large cabinets are capable of delivering. In the meantime, though, I couldn't be more thrilled with the performace I've discovered in my M22s. Cheers to Ian and company!


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Re: What did I miss?
#111102 09/19/05 04:32 PM
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I think the most profound thing I've learned about this hobby is that, next to the speakers, the ROOM has the most to do with how a given system sounds, and it's influence cannot be overestimated.


Jack

"People generally quarrel because they cannot argue." - G. K. Chesterton
Re: What did I miss?
#111103 09/20/05 06:24 AM
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Chapeau?!?

You mean the circumflex?
é - acute
è - grave
ç - cedilla
ë - trema/umlaut/diaeresis
ñ - tilde
ả - hook
ā - macra
ċ - dot
đ - stroke
ĕ - breve
ę - ogonek
œ - ligature
å - ring

(can you tell who is a typographer?)

Also (no Googling) everyone knows this * is an asterisk, but the typographic name for # is? (Not pound, or number sign or "hash")

Bren R.

Re: What did I miss?
#111104 09/20/05 06:56 AM
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octothorpe, dear fellow.

Re: What did I miss?
#111105 09/20/05 07:33 AM
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Oops, I had to Google it... I would have misspelled it "octathorpe."

Bren R.

Re: What did I miss?
#111106 09/20/05 07:40 AM
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Yes, the prefix meaning "eight" seems to go both ways:

octagon
octopus
octothorpe

Our language is so imprecise.

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