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Need crossover help!!!! Please!
#121666 12/22/05 09:45 PM
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In my current setup I have a pair of M2i's and the VP100 center channel. I have 4 Acoustic Research (cheap bookshelfs) for surrounds. HSU sub. H/K 535 receiver.

The receiver has variable crossover settings and I wanted to know how I should set them. IT's a bit confusing because I believe the VP100 center only goes down to 95hz.
All of the others go lower than 80hz.
I can manually adjust the xover onscreen with the H/K for the fronts, center, surrounds and sub individually.

The question is how high should the sub xover be? I think 100hz because of the center, am I correct?

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Personally I would cross everything over at 100 Hz and forget about it. I have played with different crossover freqs for the different speakers (I'm another HK owner) and am not convinced that any of them sound better than a straight 100 Hz crossover for everything.

Many people cross everything over at 80 Hz, the logic being that while the center is down a bit more than 3dB at 80 Hz it's not down enough to really make a difference. I don't believe that any more, at least not with a VP100 (many people using 80 Hz crossovers have VP150s) although I have to say my testing has been relatively informal.


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#121668 12/22/05 10:18 PM
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That was my thinking.
I actually had them set like this:
M2i's @ 80
Center @ 100
Surrounds @ 80
Sub @ 100

But I think having the Sub set at 100 nulified the fronts and backs being set at 80????
I guess I should just set them all at 100.

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#121669 12/22/05 10:18 PM
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60Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz. Try them all and go with what sounds best to you.
With most H/K AVRs you can set the crossovers separately.
In other words you could set your center channel for 100, your fronts at 80, and your rears at 60.


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u da man John

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#121671 12/22/05 10:21 PM
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Bray,
Would the setup I posted before your post work correctly?

I guess I keep thinking that once I set the cross for the sub @ 100 it picks up all Freq's from all of the speakers from this point down? so it doesn't even matter if I set the mains at 80 or does it?

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The question which all the (well meaning ) previous posters are missing is what to set the sub at. The answer is to set the sub at the highest crossover you're using, in this case 100 Hz. In my case (since I cross my QS4s at 120 Hz), the answer is 120 Hz. My VP100 is crossed at 100 Hz, and the 50s are crossed at 60 Hz or 80 Hz, depending on the source.


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In reply to:

But I think having the Sub set at 100 nulified the fronts and backs




The crossover on the sub should be set to out.


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#121674 12/22/05 10:26 PM
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Kcarlile....
That's what I thought.
That's how I had it set up originally. Just needed some clarification with the variable crossovers.

Thanks

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#121675 12/22/05 10:27 PM
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"Would the setup I posted before your post work correctly?"

Sure.
But try different things until you hear what you like.
The crossover on the sub should be turned off or turned up to its highest #.
Thats what the crossover settings on your AVR are for.



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