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Re: bi amping with marantz sr-6300
#122473 12/30/05 11:13 PM
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I know Wid thinks I need m80's but looking at the graph, other than a slightly better bass response, the 60 graph looks flatter.




That's why Ian owns the M80s

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I was in high school back in the 80's




Darn kids



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Re: bi amping with marantz sr-6300
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have you calibrated your speakers using pink noise tests from the receiver or other DVD and an SPL meter?


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Re: bi amping with marantz sr-6300
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You only have 10years on me I think man. Besides, I used to hang with all the kids that graduated in the 70's. That is why I started drinking beer in 9th grade.


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#122477 12/31/05 12:05 AM
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i have a spl meter and have done calibration according to what i have read ect. I am soon to aquire the avia disk and revamp.


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Re: bi amping with marantz sr-6300
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Dan, welcome. Your system looks pretty good and there shouldn't be anything that really needs to be replaced.

On the stereo separation point you mentioned, that's determined by the original recording technique and the mixing used in transferring it to CD. Any competently designed receiver, even the least expensive, has far more than enough interchannel separation; it's rarely even tested for anymore.

As far as a suggestion for something that would really make a difference for $1,500 CDN, my thought would be 50-100 CDs or DVDs.


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sounds good to me.

I remember when i upgraded from an hk avr-125 to the sr-6300 and i was like whoa.

What about a better cd transport? Can that make a difference or is the bit rate pretty much standard on all players? Right now i have a 5 disc panasonic dvd F-65 player, seems to work good, and ideas on that?


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Re: bi amping with marantz sr-6300
#122480 12/31/05 09:41 PM
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I remember when i upgraded from an hk avr-125 to the sr-6300 and i was like whoa



I'm a Marantz owner too, and I had a similar experience when I upgraded from my Sony.

My SR5200 and the Axioms are a pretty sweet combination. I've often thought about upgrading to the M60s, but you're already there. I'd be hesitant about bi-amping like you described. First of all the benefits (if there are any at all to be had) seem suspect at best. Second, you might ruin a perfectly good receiver. Maybe the answer is a separate amp. The Rotel 1075 has been calling my name for quite a while now...


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Dan, same thing with the player. Your F-65 is designed to read both DVDs and CDs flawlessly and if its in good condition there's no better sound available. If you'd like some additional feature, e.g. a 400 disc megachanger, that would be another matter.


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"Real" bi-amping (where you disable the speaker crossover and add an electronic crossover before the amplifiers) really does make a difference, but mostly by letting you run the woofer amp closer to clipping without hearing the distortion in your midrange and tweeters.

"Faux" bi-amping (where you run exactly the same signal into both amps) doesn't seem to accomplish much more than bi-wiring, and most don't feel bi-wiring accomplishes any more than going up to the next size of speaker wire.

As soon as you add a powered subwoofer with separate amplifier, you gain 99% of the benefit of "real" bi-amping anyways. Bi-amping was big back when woofers carried ALL the bass, and sub-woofers were a dream.




This is a very informative post John, very well explained in a few lines.

I have my M60s bi-wired (not bi-amped). I noticed an improvement in my system, but I am not sure if this came from bi-wiring or from switching to a different, better speaker cable.


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