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This and the "Surrender" thread. I think not!

what's a clack?

If someone is uninformed on a particular audio topic and comes to a board seeking information, presumably he wants factual information, not simply a regurgitation of subjective impressions which can be, and often are, misimpressions. In scanning other boards too often what is found is the misinformed attempting to educate the uninformed; the situation here is better.

2x6: I just can not fathom why an educated person like yourself can not understand the difference between personal opinion and technical fact.

If I told you that I think that sun rises in the West, you would think that absurd. I could give you all sort of rationale, but you still would not believe it. Why? Because you REALLY know better. That is exactly how the scientific community views your comments on speaker wires. We know better.

And, that is FACT not OPINION.

I like this board because there are some pretty sharp audio people here. You would do well to listen to some of them.

By the way, I'm glad that you like my alias. I tried to be creative.

ratpack, please tone down your "holier than thou" ranting. It irks me -- and I'm on your side.

I could not have said it better myself, John.

I'd like to second Peter on this one. Please, take it to PMs if you must. And before certain people jump on me, yes, I am a hypocrite--who has learned to try and tone it down.

I think what gets lost in all of this noise is something important for us "brain trusts" to remember--many high end cables attenuate the signal, or otherwise modify it with increased capacitance, etc. Some people like the sound of this; it's often called warmth. Me, I like my warmth to come from the original artist, but that's a personal feeling. I know that JohnK feels the same way. However, it is certainly valid for someone to like different sound provided by cables that in fact do not have the same electrical properties as higher gauge straight copper. Now, the question becomes how much of a move away from that copper electrical properties is audible. I'm pretty sure that can be measured.

On the other hand, some high end cables are a total scam.

C'mon 2x6, JohnK isn't rude - he's one of the most polite guys around.

And while I have zero interest in esoteric cables (and no factual info on their worth), I can see the romance all that stuff has for the enthusiast. Golf is the same way - maybe worse.

I get it now! Clubs made out of exotic materials can shave points off your score in the same way that exotic speaker cables can shave kilohertz off your audio signal.

It's all coming back to me as to why I take breaks from this place.............