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Help With Speaker Selection
#126512 02/03/06 02:52 AM
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After weeks of research and reading the forums, I have decided purchase an Axiom system, the question is, which one. I am wanting to stay around $600 so I am looking in the FO. My two choices are, the M3's with the EP 125 ($630) or the M50's ($630). They will only be used for music (no HT). My room is about 12x15x10h = 1800cf. I am using an Adcom GTP400 preamp and Yamaha m35 poweramp and HK 8380 cd. Looking forward to reading your thoughts. Thanks.

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#126513 02/03/06 04:05 AM
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I'm sure some of the M50 posse will jump in here, I heard they are looking for new pledges.

I'm thinking for Music only, I would go with the 50's, they get down to 39hz +/- 3dB which is just a little higher than the 60's. Now I've heard they are a little more laid back than the 60's or 80's, but are very well liked and have a great sound.

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#126514 02/03/06 04:07 AM
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Wha? Wazzat? Where am I?

Having heard both the 50s and the 3s, I'm not certain which I would pick. I love my 50s, but 3s are pretty darn impressive.


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#126515 02/03/06 04:09 AM
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I knew you would be right behind me, ha ha

I guess if he was going to use it for some HT, I might tend to say also get a sub. It is a tuff call, for music I would start with the 50's, and save for a sub down the road. Or even better, try to squeeze a little more money out of your wallet, and get some 60's, they are totally awesome dude... and the bass is killer.....


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#126516 02/03/06 05:05 AM
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Another vote for the 50s. They will make a great music system now and can serve as the basis for a big-ass (well, medium-ass) home theater system in the future.


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#126517 02/03/06 05:20 AM
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Yeah, I'd edge towards the 50s simply because of the sub. That said, I've never heard the EP125, but if you get one now, you may find it hard to upgrade later. I know I find it hard to upgrade from my sub...


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#126518 02/03/06 08:31 PM
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Hi Mark! and welcome!

Looking at your room size, it looks as though you can go either way with your purchase!

The only real concern that may exist is the "upgraditisbug".

When the usual "Axiom" fan shows up here, it's usually because he or she is attracted to a more accurate sound...by a margin of about ten to one!

When the words "cost" or "buget" or whatever similar comment is voiced, and when tied to M3s or M50s; it leads one to believe that perhaps said M3s or M50s are not the very first choice!!

Just hate to see someone "settle" for something, when for a few weeks more time and wee a bit of creative bugeting, they can get something they really want in the first place! And will be satisfied with their purchase.

If you are familiar with the differences between the M3s and M22s, and the M50s and the M60s, and feel that the somewhat more restrained character of the M3/M50 is what you desire rather than the more accurate presentation of the M22/M60, then great!

But if you're more preoccupied with dollars rather than sound at the moment.....!

......by the way....I have both M3s and M50s in the same system, by choice, and couldn't be happier!!
Rich.



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#126519 02/04/06 04:53 AM
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For the record, I think M3s are great. I still miss the ones I had (traded up for M40s). The main reason I am recommending 50s is that the difference between an EP125-priced sub and a somewhat bigger sub is huge.

Bottom line is that IMO you will get better overall performance out of M50s than you will out of M3s plus EP125 *or* a similar sub from anyone else. If you were thinking about M3s and a big-ass sub that would be a different story and I might vote for the sub/M3 system. I ran M2s and a big SVS sub for a while and that was remarkably effective for both movies and music. Having said that, I would still take my M60s with no sub over M2 plus SVS for a pure music system -- but for movies the M2/M3 plus a big sub is hard to beat in a smaller room.

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#126520 02/04/06 05:29 AM
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Before I stupidly parted with my M60s, I had them in a 14' square bedroom. In that small space, the bass was absolutely fantastic. They didn't go super low in the larger HT room, but upstairs was a different story.
I'm guessing the M50s would also be pretty deep and rich in that small space the orig poster described.

OTOH, M3s (while likely requiring a sub for the deep bass) are very versatile and will always find use later on should he upgrade.

You can't have too many bookshelf speakers laying around, can you? But what to do with a house full of towers?

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#126521 02/04/06 05:35 AM
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Interesting... I would argue the other way, that a room full of towers makes a really nice HT system but I always end up with a couple of bookshelf speakers sitting idle somewhere...


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