Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Center(s) placement.

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I don't doubt your method but it seems like taking the scenic route rather than the straightest path. Why not just use phantom mode rather than jumping through all the hoops to acheive the same result. Also, phantom mode eliminates the need for timbre matching - which I think is almost impossible (timbre match) unless identical speakers are used across the front and even then it isn't a given.

Simple -- if you run without a center channel then the sound only seems to come from the screen when you are sitting near the centerline of the speakers. As you move from side to side the sound moves with you. The center channel anchors the sound closer to the center of the screen...

I used to believe that timbre matching was a big issue -- my left M60 main sounded significantly different from my VP100 -- until I found the blown tweeter in the M60. Now they sound VERY similar

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if you run without a center channel then the sound only seems to come from the screen when you are sitting near the centerline of the speakers

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Yes, but it is only significant (at least in my situation) if your off axis position is way off to the side such as you would find in a large space or in a very near field situation. I also think that if "phantom" mode is used a good digital processor is important as well.

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The center channel anchors the sound closer to the center of the screen...

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I think that in many typical home theater situations (living room, den, etc.- not a mega buck dedicated home theater), "closer to the center of the screen" still means it sounds like it is coming from above or below the screen . Personally, I would rather live with a little less "anchoring" than a whole lot of "above or below" isolation. Good stuff

I can see where a blown tweeter just might make a difference.

My VP100 is in a odd position: on top of the TV (27"), on its angled back. It's angled up towards the ceiling, as opposed to being a straight shooter (that sounded really weird) or being aimed at the counch (which sounded good, but looked like a WATT puppy...). I very rarely notice the sound coming from the center, no matter where I am on the couch.

Thank you Ken!!

Finally got my wife off my case!!

When I read your "Watt Puppy" comment, I couldn't hold back a chuckle which the Wife heard and interrogated me about.

So I pulled up the Wilson website and showed her a Watt Puppy.

Suddenly an M3 inverted on top of our TV isn't quite so odd anymore!

Much appreciated!
Rich.

I built an angled shelf that directs the M3’s (my center channel) down to the sitting position. Prior to doing that, dialog was very noticeably coming from the speakers and not the screen. Not anymore. You also might want to play with your delay settings a bit.

Tonight I put the center on a stand below but closer to the screen. It sounded louder but not quite right. I think the second center is the next option. Tomorrow I will buy a shelf for over the tv and try a bookshelve I already have to test. If it comes close, then I will order an M3 monday.

Thanks for all comments!

How far below the screen was your center?

Why buy an M3? You're not going to mix the VP with an M3 are you? I wouldn't....