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#128733 - 02/16/06 05:34 PM Is Axiom high end?
speakerdude Offline
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I was just wondering.... is Axiom high end? I read many glowing reviews but never heard the speakers. At what level of speakers from regular stores would you say that the Axioms are on par with?

I know sound may be different, but, overall, how would you guys place Axiom on the grand scheme of things?

An example: Audi ~ BMW ~ Mercedes, whereas Bentley ~ Maybach

Thanks!

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#128734 - 02/16/06 06:12 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
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Could you give us your definition of "high end"? Each of us probably has a different definition of "low end," "mid range," and "high end," based on a variety of parameters, including budget, aesthetics, etc.

There are speakers available that cost over 100 times as much as Axioms. Are they superior to Axioms? Some, probably; others, probably not. Are any of them 100 times superior to Axioms? I doubt it.

What I CAN tell you is that Axioms are a heck of a good value. They are in a class with some excellent speakers, many of which cost much more. But, within that class, speakers will have slightly different sonic signatures. Which particular speaker in that class YOU would prefer is a purely subjective decision, and only YOU can make that decision.
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#128735 - 02/16/06 06:14 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
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High end sound with mid to lower end cost.
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#128736 - 02/16/06 06:20 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
danmagicman7 Offline
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They are true hi-fi speakers. I think that's all you need to know.

But really, compared to other speakers, they are high end. Maybe not the top end, but they certainly are high end. Top end speakers go for ridiculous prices.

To get anything better than the axioms you are going to have to pay significantly more money. Personally, I think the value is the best part of them.
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#128737 - 02/16/06 11:07 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
JohnK Offline
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Dude, welcome. Forget the term "high end", which is often used by those who equate sound quality with price; there's little or no correlation in audio between price and sound quality, and often you don't "get what you pay for".

The Axioms are accurate, fine-sounding speakers which are sold at a fair price.
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#128738 - 02/16/06 11:27 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
SirQuack Offline
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What up Dude

I've owned a lot of speakers through the years, and I consider Axiom to be Audiophile speakers. Of the brands you listed, I did do a one-on-one comparison of my Axiom m60ti's against B&W 703's. They are very similar sounding, but I gave the Axioms the winning overall vote, especially if you compare price. One 703 cost's more than two m60ti's.

Every speaker in the Axiom lineup is fabulous, and the sound is deadon accurate in reproducing your music and/or movies. Oh yeah, and the Qs8's are the best surround in the industry, in my opinion.

You might want to check the "Audition Thread" in the Hearing Things forum to see if someone lives close to you and will let you audition their Axioms. That is what sold me.

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#128739 - 02/16/06 11:39 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
bridgman Offline
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>>I know sound may be different, but, overall, how would you guys place Axiom on the grand scheme of things? An example: Audi ~ BMW ~ Mercedes, whereas Bentley ~ Maybach

Car analogies are tough because cars have gotten so complicated recently, but if I had to do a car analogy I would say go back 20 years and look at the inexpensive German sports sedans like the BMW 2002. Simple, kinda square, but versatility, performance and handling out of proportion to their cost.

What people like about Axioms the most is what you might call transparency, clarity, whatever -- you just seem to "see inside the music" more clearly than most speakers in the same price range. It's hard to describe without hearing them.

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#128740 - 02/17/06 12:41 AM Re: Is Axiom high end?
chesseroo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
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Loc: western canada
My only concept of 'low end' or even 'mid-fi' is anything that really sounds questionable. This includes most speakers built for computers and any unknown, 15 syllable brand name that magically sells the best sound ever for fifty bucks or less at Radio Shack.
I visualize hifi as any company that makes a reasonable attempt at making an honestly good speaker.
Define that further at your own discretion.

Audiosnobs will tell you that hifi is anything above a certain and yet non-specific price point. If Axioms sold their speakers with real wood veneers (coming soon) and for about $3000 more, they would probably be classified as hifi and eventually get accepted into the world of snobbery.
So far they've kept pretty well to their more humble roots in the rural area outside of Huntsville.
Lovely area.
Very wooded.

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#128741 - 02/17/06 07:50 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
KC23 Offline
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Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 212
Loc: Southern California
I think using cars is a poor way to analogize speakers because like speakers people have different tastes in cars.

My first reaction was to say they are like Infinities or Acuras. Toyota and Honda are good cars and Infinaties and Acuras are their high end versions. I'd put Axioms in that catagory as far as "quality".

That being said I don't see any good analogies with cars regarding value because they're simply not any cars out there with the price/quality ratio that Axiom present IMHO.


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#128742 - 02/17/06 08:13 PM Re: Is Axiom high end?
F107plus5 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/05
Posts: 2034
Loc: Fla. Orig. Mich.
How bout something deceptively simple like

entry-level high-end.

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