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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130474 03/04/06 06:15 PM
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I agree, Jack. The best thing about speaker break-in or ear break-in is that it's absolutely free, and will eventually happen by just listening!


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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130475 03/04/06 08:37 PM
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Jack,

I came across wrong and sometime assume that people can read through the lines and get what I consider, an obvious point. I was actually agreeing with you, but just being very blunt, and I was not responding to you specifically. By saying “Who cares”, my meaning was, does it really matter? Or, why would anyone want to argue such points one way or the other? And, those audio know-it-all’s who absolutely just have to argue these points must not have anything better to do with their time than pick pointless fights and arguments.

And, if this thread was titled “speaker break in, is it for real?” or something to that effect, I most certainly would not have read it no more that open any “speaker wire” and “warm AVR” threads. But it wasn’t.


Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130476 03/04/06 09:50 PM
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Understood, Mike. I misinterpreted your meaning. I apologize.


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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130477 03/05/06 03:05 AM
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I've always wondered what other people are hearing/perceiving when they hear my system for the first time? What are their pre-conceived notions? How does it effect their experience?

Except for one buddy, I've never gotten a "Holy sh*t!! That sounds amazing!!" (Which is exactly what I am thinking while I'm standing there showing them.) Now most of them would never think of spending $1000cdn on their ENTIRE system, let alone $4k just for speakers. I don't think they even realize what a steal they are at that price.


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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130478 03/05/06 03:10 AM
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I am waiting for the custom finishes to be anounced to order an EP600 sub. Therefore, I was concerned with the issue of the close proximity between the EP600 and the M80. I wrote to Axiom and this is what they responeded.

In reply to:


From: Nat
To: JC
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: Question

Hi,

I was recently reading a review for the M80 and the EP600 http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/axiom/axiom_2.html

The review talks about a ground loop that become effective if the EP600 is less than 3 feet away from the M80. In my setup, the subwoofer is less than 1 feet away from the left speaker. Is that a problem, and am I likely to get loop issues ?

Regards

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Hi,

If you are using the line level input on your Axiom EP600 subwoofer that will not be an issue; it happens only if you are using the high level inputs.

Have a great weekend !

jc





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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130479 03/05/06 09:02 AM
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Wait, he did that review using the high level inputs?

My head asplode.


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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130480 03/05/06 06:40 PM
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Nat, I currently have my EP600 less than 18 inches from my M80's without ever having experienced the issues described in the 6moons article. Oh, my 600 is connected at the line level connection.

This combination of M80/EP600 sounds amazing, especially when I use the "pure" stereo mode on my Denon reciever. I have actually had to put my ear to my VP150 during this playback in order to determine whether it was on or was this the M80's blending to create this illusion.

You will love this combination... Bud


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Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
#130481 03/06/06 01:41 AM
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I would not add a word to the reviews here from Jack and others, I myself am not sure whether it is my equipment or my ears to "break in". However, many months ago, when I initially posted something about what I perceived as my Rotel CDP sounding harsh at the beginning, I even read something like "wipping the spit off his/her computer screen", in disgust on my finding. We have lots of improvement out here!!


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