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#130454 - 03/03/06 05:45 PM Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
Tharkun Offline
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Interesting review .

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#130455 - 03/03/06 05:55 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Great article Dennis, Thanks
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#130456 - 03/03/06 06:20 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Would help if I found the typo errors before the stupid time limit for editing expired.
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#130457 - 03/03/06 06:21 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Great review, I cant wait for my 500 to grow up, I guess my house has to grow first.
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#130458 - 03/03/06 06:28 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Thanks for the link Dennis, it was good reading.
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#130459 - 03/03/06 06:31 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
Tharkun Offline
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The 600 only takes about a 15" x 18" area of floor space, so it is not that big really, only in height
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#130460 - 03/03/06 07:41 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Waaaa, why dont I have that in my dorm room...waaaaaa.



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#130461 - 03/03/06 08:03 PM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
bugbitten Offline
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Thanks for the post. Love my 80s.

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#130462 - 03/04/06 12:24 AM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
thyname Offline
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Not trying to start a war here, but here is something regarding "burn in"

In reply to:


the Axioms were returned to the room and driven at moderate levels for a few days while I was at work. With less than 20 hours on them, I settled in for another listen and was surprised to hear a complete lack of the aforementioned treble prominence. As a matter of fact, not only were the speakers not bright, edgy or sibilant, they were downright smooth and civilized




Here is more, further down:

In reply to:


It took only a very few more hours for the midrange to reach its full potential.




From the review, it appears that this guy seem to know a bit on audio...
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#130463 - 03/04/06 10:23 AM Re: Axiom Awards From Buemoon !
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Not trying to start a war here...


Me neither, but I'd like to try to make my point of view clear, and I hope, in the process, I don't offend anyone.

I am a burn-in skeptic. While I can't speak for other skeptics, I want to assure those who are burn-in believers that I fully believe they perceive a difference in the sound of the speakers after a certain period of time. However, the question remains, is that change actually in the sound of the speaker, or is it a change in the listener's perception of the sound of the speakers, i.e. is there an acclimatization of one's brain to the sound of the speaker?

One of my fears is that burn-in believers interpret the concept that the change is in the perception of the sound of the speakers, rather than in the speakers themselves, means "I think the change is all in your head." While that is an accurate summation of my point of view, that phrase is NOT synonymous with "I think your nuts," or "you're fooling yourself," or "boy, are you stupid." None of that is what I believe, or am trying to say.

Human beings are remarkably adaptable creatures. Many years ago, my sister had a railroad track just behind the house in which she lived. When I'd visit, the trains would rattle my fillings. When I asked how she stood it, her response was (paraphrasing, now) "what trains." She had become acclimated to the point that she didn't really notice the trains at all.

Our perceptions tend to be "relative" rather than "absolute." If my diet is a bland one, and I eat a hot pepper, my reaction of "wow that's hot" is quite different from someone who is a steady consumer of jalapeños and cayenne, who looks at me like I'm nuts, and says "whadaya mean 'hot'?"

If one is used to the sound of speaker A, then that sound is his/her benchmark. It is what he/she is acclimated to and perceives as "normal." Now that person purchases speaker B, which, lets say, has more treble energy. First impression is that this is a "bright" speaker." After a random period of time, this person becomes acclimated to speaker B's sound, it no longer sounds "bright," and IT'S sound becomes the benchmark, the "normal" sound. Now, this person visits a friend who still has a pair of speaker A, and that speaker sounds "muffled." This explains why, to some, a given speaker is "bright," while, to others, the same speaker sounds "neutral," or even "muffled." One's perception depends upon that to which one is acclimated.

Also, I consider the senses, or, rather, the interpretation by the brain of what the senses send to it, to be surprisingly unreliable. I cite, as evidence, optical illusions, the example of a pilot who's senses tell him he's diving when he's actually climbing, 10 witnesses to a crime with different descriptions of the criminal, and hearing a noise which seems to be coming from where it's not, etc.

Here is a post that pretty much sums up my take on break-in,

Chu Gai's post on break-in. It's got some interesting stuff.

DISCLAIMER: My post is NOT an attempt to change anyone's mind. I completely support other folk's right to believe differently than I. Of course I think they're mistaken. They, of course, think I'M mistaken. We're both entitled to our opinions and to express those opinions. No problem.
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