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Re: MonoPrice cables
SkiTaos #136923 06/02/06 12:28 AM
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Oh my. Here we go again.


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Re: MonoPrice cables
Ken.C #136924 06/02/06 12:38 AM
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Re: MonoPrice cables
SkiTaos #136925 06/02/06 01:04 AM
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SkiTaos, I guarantee you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between generic 12-gauge "zip wire" and equivalent gauge Kimber Kables in a double-blind test. Passing an analog audio signal is one of the least complicated things a wire can do and is extemeley well understood scientifically.

To sum up, unless a cable is designed in such a way that it alters the original signal -- which is a BAD THING -- then it'll pass audibly flawlessly from one end to the other.

And don't even get me started on digital cable. 1s and 0s in one end 1s and 0s out the other.

Re: MonoPrice cables
SkiTaos #136926 06/02/06 01:27 AM
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Welcome to the Axiom forum, and you are entitled to your opinions.

As for your test, I have done that many times on my system. Parasound Halo amps, Denon,Sony and Oppo players, using both Axiom and Rocket speakers. Cables consisting of a mix of Axiom, Bluejeans, Monoprice.........with the volume maxed at +15db there is no hiss or popping from any of the speakers. Actually not a sound of any type, perhaps I'm just lucky.

Re: MonoPrice cables
SkiTaos #136927 06/02/06 02:23 AM
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Ski, welcome. Your comments are undoubtedly well-meant, but frankly they read like a collection of advertising slogans from high-price sellers. Speaker wire and patch cables perform a technologically trivial function by serving as a low resistance pathway for the electromagnetic wave that travels along the outside of the wire. The items to perform this without audible flaws are available at reasonable cost from many suppliers such as MonoPrice and Total Signal. Claims to the contrary collapse when put to the (blind listening)test.


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Re: MonoPrice cables
pmbuko #136928 06/02/06 02:50 AM
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And don't even get me started on digital cable. 1s and 0s in one end 1s and 0s out the other.




What I mean by specifying the "coax", is why use optical if you don't have too? The signal is converted into light and then back. Why put the signal through another change if you don't have too? keep the signal path as simple as possible. I agree that you don't want the cables to affect the signal no matter what. That is Purist's goal, to keep the original signal as pure as possible while keeping out the interference.

With that said, Some say "It doesn't matter what you buy. Lamp cord is just as good as Kimber 4pr speaker wire (their starting cable). The only difference is that Kimber has sucked you in to thier sales pitch" So, Kimber a huge company is banking their livelyhood on a sales pitch? I live near Ogden, Utah where Kimber Kable happens to be located. I was given an extensive tour, and was amazed by the extent of their research and development facility. I know for sure that I am not the only one that feels that Kimber and Purist make a huge difference in the performance of a system. Try and convice the attendees and exhibitors at the home entertainment show (theshowlasvegas.com) that Blue jean and Monster are all you need and nothing more.

So, I guess I am one of those that will feel better having $2000 worth of cables in my system. As a consumer thats all that matters, right?! I have heard the cables compaired to Monster and Radio Shack and have heard the difference. Not a psycological (I "think" I can hear)difference but an actual audible difference. Bass is tighter and the soundstage is improved.

Re: MonoPrice cables
SkiTaos #136929 06/02/06 03:06 AM
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For the sake of argument, let's say that cables do make a difference. Saying that the difference is HUGE is a bit of an overstatement. If that were true, then most people would be able to reliably differentiate among different cables in double-blind tests. As JohnK stated, this has not yet occurred.

Your money is best spent in places that unquestionably make a difference in sound -- like the speakers.

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The way I figure it, if you can afford it and it makes you happy, then nothing else said really matters, but if you choose Axiom over B&W you'll have more money to buy those cables


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pmbuko #136931 06/02/06 11:41 AM
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Re: MonoPrice cables
n8wrl #136932 06/02/06 01:39 PM
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It seems to have remained civil thus far, hasn't it? If we shy away from debates -- even ones we've had many times -- then this would be a dull place, don'tcha think? If someone states something that I believe is fundamentally misleading, is it not important to offer my own viewpoint?

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to beat dead horses (or witness them being beaten) any more than the next guy, so I'm adopt JohnK's methodology: say my piece and move on.

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