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#138588 05/17/06 03:37 AM
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Hey guys, I was wondering if the m60s (in the front) would make a difference in my setup. Well I have a yamaha 7.1 receiver
- front: m22ti
- center: vp100
- rear : axiom ax1.5
- PSB 12" sub (pretty decent)

Since it cost around 1000$ for me, I'm wondering what to do.

My room is not really big 11'x10 maximum (I dont recall the exact dimensions)



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#138589 05/17/06 03:51 AM
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Luc, in that size room it would appear that the M22s, with the sub handling the low bass, would be more than adequate at the sound output levels that would be used. Alan, for example, has commented several times on the near identity between the M22 and M60 above the low bass when used in small to medium-sized rooms.


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I'm really a newbie concerning audio stuff and I'm wondering if you guys have good links to learn about audio hardware.

Could I improve something in my setup? I'm kinda lost with the preamp and external amplifiers. I don't know or understand if I need any of this.








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#138591 05/17/06 04:03 AM
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Hey Luc,

I've never heard the 22's, but as John mentioned, they do a great job when combined with a sub, especially in smaller rooms. Another important point is to make sure you have everything calibrated correctly, that will make a world of difference.

The m60's put out some killer bass, so I'm sure you would notice some difference based on the design differences. Good luck on your decision...I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading to some 80's, but I have a HUGE room.


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Well my setup sounds good but not great.. I know that a lot of the sound depends on speaker placement so I may try to play with that.

I will try to post pics of my setup (when I get back home) to get some suggestions ..

my receiver:
http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Receivers/RX_V650Ti.jsp


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#138593 05/17/06 04:14 AM
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Luc, I have never heard the ax1.5's, but maybe instead of switching the m22's you could switch yor rears to a QS series.


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Luc, my thought would also be that QS4s would significantly increase your enjoyment. The 650 should have plenty of power for that room and there wouldn't appear to be a good reason to consider a separate pre-amp and amp.

As to speaker placement, if you don't have them with the M22 tweeters at ear level, or at least pointing to ear level, that's one suggestion. Separating them about as much as your distance from them, if possible, is another point.


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#138595 05/17/06 05:28 AM
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Hi Luc!

I happen to own both the M22's and the M60's. As much as I prefer my M60's, I honestly wouldn't spend another $1000 to replace the M22's which happen to be in the same size room as yours. I'm very satisfied with the output of the M22's and they are only being powered by a 40wpc Rotel amp. Can you perhaps be more specific about what you're unhappy with?


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#138596 05/17/06 11:20 AM
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well, my shelves are higher than ear level. When I installed my shelves, my speakers were smaller (the AX 1.5 model). So now that I've bought my m22, which are a lot taller, my speakers placement are really not optimal.

I have 4 speaker stands sleeping in my locker. I will get them and try to ear a difference.



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I find that my setup doesnt seem to play very loud and the bass is not shocking. The fact is that my girlfriend doesnt like the sub very much and I turned down it's volume quite a bit.

If I play a movie and i turn the sub's volume a bit, I get a good experience but when I listen to radio or a CD, I dont enjoy it equally.

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