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Basic Yamaha Receiver question.
#141039 06/08/06 08:20 PM
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My question isn't really about a particular model, more a basic question about all current Yamaha receivers in general.

Do yamaha receivers send a signal to the subwoofer in 2 channel stereo mode while the front speakers are set to small?

Also, what is the factory set crossover in yamaha receivers that dont allow you to change the crossover. I thought I remember reading that it was 90Hz but I cant remember.

Thanks

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NEW2AXIOM #141040 06/08/06 08:26 PM
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Do yamaha receivers send a signal to the subwoofer in 2 channel stereo mode while the front speakers are set to small?


Depends what the BASS setting is set to. MAIN, SUBW or BOTH.

Bren R.

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Do yamaha receivers send a signal to the subwoofer in 2 channel stereo mode while the front speakers are set to small?


Depends what the BASS setting is set to. MAIN, SUBW or BOTH.

Bren R.


Well I would want the Sub to handle all the low bass and such so lets say I set it to SUBW.

Can you go into a little more detail? Thanks

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Well I would want the Sub to handle all the low bass and such so lets say I set it to SUBW.


Oops... sorry, thought it was self-explanitory...

From the manual:
SWFR - Select this if you use a subwoofer. The unit directs the LFE effects to the subwoofer
MAIN - Select this if you do not use a subwoofer. The unit directs LFE to the main speakers
BOTH - The unit directs LFE signals to the subwoofer. Low-frequency signals designated to the main channels are directed to both main speakers and the subwoofer.

Note: When you select MAIN for "1E BASS" the unit directs the low-frequency signals (90Hz and below) of the main channel to the main speakers even if you select SMALL for the MAIN speaker mode.

Sooooo...

There are two types of bass discussed here.. LFE (ie: the dot-1 channel of DD or DTS x.1) and low-frequencies under the 90Hz crossover point that are in the mains. Let's call these last things "bass"... when I say (bass)... know I mean the low-frequencies in the main channels (in this case, L & R stereo, assuming you're playing CDs?)

Two Channel CD/etc - ignore all the LFE stuff, there is NO discrete LFE channel...
1.Set to SWFR, the sub takes the (bass) only if the mains are set to SML... if the mains are set to LRG, the sub sits unused.
2.Set to MAIN, the mains take the (bass) no matter what the mains size is set to SML/LRG.
3.Set to BOTH, the sub gets the (bass) no matter what. With mains set to LRG - the mains also get the (bass) and set to SML they don't.

Whew... that's for 2 channel. x.1 is a bit of a different story... that's pretty eay to figure out from the above, though, right? LFE is the .1 "bum rumbler" channel... the low-frequencies they talk about are the (bass) in the mains... like the low notes on the cello or whatever in the movie score destined for the mains...

Bren R.

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BrenR #141043 06/08/06 09:58 PM
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Well I would want the Sub to handle all the low bass and such so lets say I set it to SUBW.


Oops... sorry, thought it was self-explanitory...

From the manual:
SWFR - Select this if you use a subwoofer. The unit directs the LFE effects to the subwoofer
MAIN - Select this if you do not use a subwoofer. The unit directs LFE to the main speakers
BOTH - The unit directs LFE signals to the subwoofer. Low-frequency signals designated to the main channels are directed to both main speakers and the subwoofer.

Note: When you select MAIN for "1E BASS" the unit directs the low-frequency signals (90Hz and below) of the main channel to the main speakers even if you select SMALL for the MAIN speaker mode.

Sooooo...

There are two types of bass discussed here.. LFE (ie: the dot-1 channel of DD or DTS x.1) and low-frequencies under the 90Hz crossover point that are in the mains. Let's call these last things "bass"... when I say (bass)... know I mean the low-frequencies in the main channels (in this case, L & R stereo, assuming you're playing CDs?)

Two Channel CD/etc - ignore all the LFE stuff, there is NO discrete LFE channel...
1.Set to SWFR, the sub takes the (bass) only if the mains are set to SML... if the mains are set to LRG, the sub sits unused.
2.Set to MAIN, the mains take the (bass) no matter what the mains size is set to SML/LRG.
3.Set to BOTH, the sub gets the (bass) no matter what. With mains set to LRG - the mains also get the (bass) and set to SML they don't.

Whew... that's for 2 channel. x.1 is a bit of a different story... that's pretty eay to figure out from the above, though, right? LFE is the .1 "bum rumbler" channel... the low-frequencies they talk about are the (bass) in the mains... like the low notes on the cello or whatever in the movie score destined for the mains...

Bren R.


Thank you very much! That is a great help!

I also assume that 90Hz is the factory setting crossover for yamaha recievers correct? Thanks

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Yes Jay, the older Yamaha HT receivers had a fixed 90Hz crossover. As summarized from Bren's info, set all speakers "small" and direct bass to "SWFR"; this allows the sub to play the low bass below the selected crossover frequency from "small" speakers(including stereo material) and also any LFE that may occasionally be present during 5.1 movies.


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Yes Jay, the older Yamaha HT receivers had a fixed 90Hz crossover. As summarized from Bren's info, set all speakers "small" and direct bass to "SWFR"; this allows the sub to play the low bass below the selected crossover frequency from "small" speakers(including stereo material) and also any LFE that may occasionally be present during 5.1 movies.


ok thanks.


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