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Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel
bugbitten #145965 08/22/06 11:42 PM
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I agree with Craig and bugbitten.

Personally, I run my 60's small with the sub, because I am just too damn lazy to press those extra buttons to reconfigure stuff all the damn time. Unfortunately, my receiver doesn't cross over lower than 80Hz; from the small amount of experimentation I was able to manage, I very strongly suspect I would adopt Rick's recommendation of 60Hz if I had that as an option.


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Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel
tomtuttle #145966 08/23/06 12:28 AM
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I've tried many variations and have settled with all speakers to small and an 80hz crossover on the AVR.

Stymie, I'm a little confused on why you would use 40hz crossover, in addition to also using the sub crossover. For starters 40hz is way to low, at least bump that up to 60-80hz. If your AVR/amp is managing the crossover, you don't want your sub crossover in the picture, you need to place it on bypass.


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Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel CD?
darthkringle #145967 08/23/06 12:45 AM
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I listen with sub on, speakers set to small, 80Hz crossover.


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Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel
darthkringle #145968 08/23/06 02:05 AM
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I keep going back and forth on this, but for Most of you that have M60's or M800's and and EP500 or EP600, do you use your sub w/ 2channel Cd's? Do you run your mains large or small if you use the sub? Thanks for any input.




As I've become more familiar with my setup I've relied more and more on my sub. Just takes a little time to blend with the rest of the system. The SPL meter and such can get you in the ballpark but it's your ears that will tell you what sounds right.

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Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel CD?
darthkringle #145969 08/23/06 11:23 PM
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I can't think of any reason NOT to use the sub.

I think that any time a system sounds better with the sub turned off, then it simply must not be setup properly in the first place. It took me a good amount of time until I found the best settings and placement required to integrate my sub with the rest of my system, and now there is never a time that I would want to turn it off.

I use 80hz crossover for movies, and 60hz for 2 channel listening (I used to use 80hz for 2 channel with my m-22s, 60hz for my M-60s now). I use an Outlaw ICBM for my bass management, and for the rest of the channels, I have my vp150 set to 100hz and QS-8's set to 80hz.

Re: M60's and EP500- Do most use sub w/2 channel CD?
ElTorrente #145970 08/24/06 12:34 AM
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I can't think of any reason NOT to use the sub.

I think that any time a system sounds better with the sub turned off, then it simply must not be setup properly in the first place. It took me a good amount of time until I found the best settings and placement required to integrate my sub with the rest of my system, and now there is never a time that I would want to turn it off.

I use 80hz crossover for movies, and 60hz for 2 channel listening (I used to use 80hz for 2 channel with my m-22s, 60hz for my M-60s now). I use an Outlaw ICBM for my bass management, and for the rest of the channels, I have my vp150 set to 100hz and QS-8's set to 80hz.




Here's a couple reasons...

1) You don't have a really good sub (a bad sub sounds horrible with music
2) You have no bass management (or very little)
3) You have shared walls/floors with neighbors
4) You prefer the sound of music without the added depth of a sub

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