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Martin Logan and Axiom
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I had the opportunity to purchase a pair of Martin Logan Mosaics and a Yamaha RX-V2500 receiver for a very good price yesterday so I did. I was intending on buying a pair of Axiom M60's, but this deal was too good to pass up. Did I make a mistake? Does anyone have any experience with these speakers? If so, how to they compare to the M60's? Also, if I keep the Martin Logans, will QS8's and a VP150 go well with them?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

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billypratt75 #152069 11/25/06 06:05 PM
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Normally you want your Left and Right mains to be matched to the center.

If you do a search for "subject" only for +martin +logan for the last few years there has been much discussion. I recall one guy saying his M60's were staying and he was returning the MLs, not sure what models though.


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Thanks.

I searched, but came up empty handed. There was only one post about Martin Logans and it wasn't about the Mosaics. I guess I'll continue to break them in (manual says 30 hours) and see how they sound. I have 30 days to see if they're what I'm looking for.

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billypratt75 #152071 11/26/06 03:43 AM
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Billy, I haven't heard any Martin Logans, but like any speaker choice--let your ears decide for you. Listen to them as much as you can with different types of music. What sort of things do you find desireable in a speaker? Image and soundstage? Warm midrange? Smooth treble? Detail? Emotion? There is no answer I can give you. It's a process. Don't be afraid to like something, and more importantly, don't be afraid to dislike something--no matter how much money you spend. The goal is to find something you are happy with.


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billypratt75 #152072 11/26/06 03:51 AM
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If you decide you like the Martin Logan's, your best bet would be to find a center channel from them if possible. The QS8's Imo would be a great choice for surrounds with any brand of speakers.


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billypratt75 #152073 11/26/06 09:01 AM
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I've always found electrostatic speakers sounded thin to me.

Having said that, I've only heard one pair in the last 10 years, and a few pair before that.

See what you like... everyone's got a preference.

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The Mosaics get good marks in various reviews, but are mostly characterized as laid back. No matter - to underscore a point made above, let your ears decide for you.

Also, as Randy points out, matching a center is good stuff. If you decide to keep them, you may want to consider a ML center as well.

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Well, so far these seem to be what I'm looking for. The sound is very smooth and the clarity is extremely nice. As of right now it looks like I will keep them. I will be getting a ML center channel and a
(HSU or SVS) sub in the near future, but the way the living room is configured, it's going to be hard (almost impossible) to have a full 5.1 or 7.1 surround system. I guess I'll stick with the fronts, center and sub until we move and have a room designated for a theater. That's when the Axiom's will be ordered. Thanks for all the advice. It's greatly appreciated.
I did have one question about the Yamaha 2500. It seems that you really have to move the volume a lot to get any sound. I mean, you get plenty of volume, but it seems to come on slowly. Is this normal?

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The Mosaics get good marks in various reviews, but are mostly characterized as laid back.


Oddly, an adjective that's never been used to describe me.

Bren R.

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Hi billypratt75,

You might check the rated impedance of the Mosaics. Electrostatic speakers are sometimes notoriously difficult loads to drive. If the Mosaics present a 4-ohm load or lower, your Yamaha might be current-limiting its output to prevent overheating of the output transistors, which might explain why the Yamaha's power output seems low.


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