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I would love to get a pair of the M80s but I need to know how important room size is. The room I would be putting them in is 12x10. The room has only one piece of furniture in it so the room is not cluttered. I dont have an amp yet either so I have to consider that to. I would welcome any opinions or advice.
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Definately overkill for that size room, but they certainly won't sound bad.
Speakers such as those are typically long term investments so you more than likely will want to put them in a bigger room some day and you'll be all set.
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Well if they still sound good even though it may be overkill for a room that size then thats ok with me since my main concern is how well they sound. Thanks for your opinion.
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It all depends on how loud you like your music. I have 80s in a similar listening area (the room is bigger).
I love the sound produced by the 80s at low volume, especially Yo Yo Ma and similar music.
The 80s also fill the house with Christmas music.
The 80s are very efficient 4 ohm speakers and use very little power to produce big sound.
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I have m60's in a 30ft x 31ft room and they are fine, the 80's would rock your world. 
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When I first got my M80s I had them positioned on the long wall and sat only about 8' away. I tried everything I could think of to make them sound good to me, it never worked. They were just too much in your face forward. Once I rearranged the speakers to the short wall and had some distance between me and the 80s everything sounded great.
In that size room there is no way in the world I would recommend M80s in such a small room. At most I would look at the M60s and would really recommend M22 and a sub of your choosing.
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Rick, I am looking for something that will "blow me away" when listening to music. I am also a drummer and want the music to be loud and clear enough to play to. Will the M22s do that for me? Thanks.
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Have you looked in the audition page to see if there is someone in your area that will let you check out a set of Axioms. You should also call Axiom and see what their thoughts are. I would think a set of M22s and a great sub would indeed rock your world.
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mine are in a 12 x 16 room and they are borderline too much. I normally don't do this, but I'd suggest you shy away from the 80's. To really make the 80's sound their best, you have to give them some room behind and from the side walls. I also think you need to be sitting no less than 10' from the drivers. That's just my personal experience with them and shouldn't be taken as gospel.
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Another floor standing speaker you might want to consider would be a set of M50s. Though I have never heard them those who have them rave about them. Knowing Axiom and their high standards I would bet they too would be a good choice.
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Rick, I did talk to someone at Axiom previously and he recommended the M80s for what I wanted to do. I told him I was a drummer and I needed something powerful enough so when I am listening to music I can hear well enough to play my drums to. However, I never told him what size room I had. He probably assumed I had a rather large room since I had drums in them. Anyway, I was set to buy the M80s today but I guess I need to start over and rethink this.
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Well there is no doubt the 80s will play louder than most will ever listen to but room size has as much to do with this as the speakers themselves do. I would call Axiom again and tell the about your room and requirements again.
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I would think 60's would be fine, or 50's for that matter. My 60's blow me away.
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I would think 60's would be fine, or 50's for that matter. My 60's blow me away.
This coming from someone that really does need some M80s 
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>>This coming from someone that really does need some M80s Perhaps he will sucumb to peir pressure.
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Perhaps he will sucumb to peir pressure.
I doubt it.
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Oh believe me, I would love to have some m80's, and maybe a couple of ep600s, the WAF is the issue. 
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Rick, I did talk to someone at Axiom previously and he recommended the M80s for what I wanted to do. I told him I was a drummer and I needed something powerful enough so when I am listening to music I can hear well enough to play my drums to. However, I never told him what size room I had. He probably assumed I had a rather large room since I had drums in them. Anyway, I was set to buy the M80s today but I guess I need to start over and rethink this.
Call Axiom back! You may get the same answer. Or maybe not. But their advice and CS is the best.
It sounds like you looking for accurate and loud. The 80s are that.
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Is that when you build some kind of a structure on top of someone's body? I thought that sort of thing was illegal.
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Is that when you build some kind of a structure on top of someone's body? I thought that sort of thing was illegal.
You lost me on that one 
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Rick, I am looking for something that will "blow me away" when listening to music. I am also a drummer and want the music to be loud and clear enough to play to. Will the M22s do that for me? Thanks.
Being a a professional musician drummer myself I would recommend you to invest in a good pair of headphones for playing drums with. This will give you accurate sound and also save you from hearing loss.
Playing with M80s in your room blasting loud with a drum kit will most def cause hearing loss unless you have invested in some ear plugs. But if you are going to wear ear plugs, you should just get headphones instead.
In addition to your headphones, grab some M22s and a EP500 and you will be able to play music at ear bleeding levels. This will save you alot of money as well.
Check out AKG studio headphones if you want to go this route.
Just thought of this...If you do decide to go the M22 EP500 route and headphones, you can get a kick drum mic and hook it up to the EP500 with an XLR cable, play to the music with your headphones on and you will be able to feel the rumble of your kick drum, just a thought! I should do this!
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peir pressure. Although for my bad pun on someone's bad spelling to really work, it would need to be pier pressure.
Oh forget it. Grumble...
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peir pressure. Although for my bad pun on someone's bad spelling to really work, it would need to be pier pressure.
Oh forget it. Grumble...
Yessssss, I win!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, you just lose less badly.
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Maybe something like this . 
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No, you just lose less badly.
hmmm, you seem to be correct...peer...dangit!
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Being a a professional musician drummer myself I would recommend you to invest in a good pair of headphones for playing drums with.
Well, which is it? Are you a musician or a drummer? 
Oh god, will I get a lot of mileage out of this knowledge.
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>>Well, which is it? Are you a musician or a drummer? Oh god, will I get a lot of mileage out of this knowledge.
ooohhhhh jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeee
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What do you all think? I have a 16x38 sized room. How would the M80's do?! Thanks!
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Now that's a room sized for some M80s and a big ass amp
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Vike, welcome. As Rick and others commented, the M80s might not be your best choice in that room. With reasonable speaker and listener positioning it appears that you wouldn't be more than about 6' away. The drivers should have enough distance to "blend", and with the size of the M80s you probably wouldn't really have enough room, so that in my view is the problem, rather than any sort of "overpowering", because the volume can be adjusted to suit the room.
I tried my M22s in various sized rooms, including one just slightly larger than yours, and believe that they would be a fine choice for you when coupled a good sub.
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Thanks for the advice but the M22s are $460 a pair and the EP500 is $1,200. How is this cheaper than the 80s at $1,300? I like you idea about the headphones. I dont know why I did not think of that. Well, its down to the M22s with a subwoofer or the M60s. Any suggestion on power and preamp for these speakers?
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No one mentioned NHT sub, specifically NHT SW10/SW12? I am missing something? The driver is NHT 1259, the same one in their NHT 3.3 system I believe. It is also one of the popular choice of driver for DIY sub owners. They are very musical. Google NHT 1259 and find out more information on it.
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I have owned M80's for a few years now and have tried them in several rooms, and I have to be honest with you, they do not sound good in a room 12 x 10. I have had them in a room almost exactly those dimensions, and there just no soundstage. The sound was like... like it was put through a blender.
I had M22's in that same room, and M3's, and they both sounded very good. I would suggest either of those, or M50's if you want more bass.
However, if you plan on having a bigger room shortly, then you can definitely get M80's. Also, don't forget that if you get M80's, you will need an amp that can drive the 4 ohm load.
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