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Here's the problem:
on average, the consumer doesn't give a rat's ass. If only there were more audiophiles...
And to add to that most consumers have never heard what a crappy recording sounds like on a good system. Heck most have never heard a good system period.
Rick
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Unfortunately, the techniques used to maximise the volume are damaging the music itself.
Steve Hoffman "Everything is loud, everything is bright, there's no subtlety in it at all, it's a sound that one would tire of fairly quickly."
"The brick wall has been reached. I wonder how long it will be before the record companies re-re-release their back catalogue, re-re-mastered for additional dynamic range?"
Nice find. I knew I had read something to this effect somewhere else. The article I had read put the onus on radio play as to why the CD's are getting louder, making the song seem better on the radio driving up sales. Could it be that with all the downloading, the songs are getting mastered even louder to try to make up for the loss in the extreme compressed formats?
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The recording quality of many pop items sucks. Listen to classical discs to hear how music is supposed to sound.
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I've mentioned this before. Bren R.
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I don't disagree with any of the above, but c'mon...
It's a very old shelf system. Isn't it *possible^ that the amp is fried? There are lots of valid avenues to isolate the problem, but I don't think the car is one of them.
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I don't disagree with any of the above, but c'mon...
It's a very old shelf system. Isn't it *possible^ that the amp is fried? There are lots of valid avenues to isolate the problem, but I don't think the car is one of them.
We are just going with the fact he was told it was OK after he took it in, because he thought there was something wrong with it too.
Jason
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From the thread that Bren linked to above: Quote:
I've found it's much better through my ipod. The ipod actually saves some of these cds.
I have to agree. When listening to a bad sounding CD back to back, it does sound smoother, and not so harsh through the iPod. Now, some of the detail has been stripped away as well but IMO, it's worth it. Those particular CD's were virtually unlistenable in their original state on the M80's.
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First, I'd ask if he's lacking bass. If that's what's making them sound terrible, then but a sub. He's tried two different sets of speakers so it is probably NOT the speakers. Generally any decent pair of bookshelves will reproduce more of the high end of the audible frequency range than all but the best car systems. They will also tend to be more accurate. I've got a TON of CD's that will never see play in the HT that live in the car. I love them in the car. The car rolls off the highs, bloats the mids, and generally sounds all distorted. But those CD's sound OK in there. Take that same CD in the HT and they are unlistenable after a few seconds. My suggestion, get a CD that you KNOW is of good quality (tons of suggestions abound so I won't bore you) and have him listen to it. If he says that CD sounds bad, then it's the equipment. He's out $15 max with the bonus of having a good CD to enjoy once he figures out what the real problem is.
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