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Re: LCD TV Advice
JasonEuc #159024 02/19/07 03:40 PM
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Argh! Why can't one technology be clearly superior? :-)



Yeah, it's kinda like picking a mate. You just have to find one who can give you what's important to you, and whose flaws you can live with, cuz they all have 'em.


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Re: LCD TV Advice
Ajax #159025 02/19/07 04:40 PM
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Jordan, since you are not in a hurry I suggest waiting since many new models are scheduled for release over the next 3 months. Even if you don't by a new model prices will come down on the current models as the new ones replace them. I would also look at Toshiba and also consider a 1080p model if you go up to 42".


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[quoteYeah, it's kinda like picking a mate. You just have to find one who can give you what's important to you, and whose flaws you can live with, cuz they all have 'em.




And, you couldn't have told me this 20 years ago??????


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Re: LCD TV Advice
MarkSJohnson #159027 02/19/07 04:54 PM
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And, you couldn't have told me this 20 years ago??????



Well, I coulda, but I didn't want to disillusion you.


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Re: LCD TV Advice
Ajax #159028 02/19/07 09:05 PM
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Thanks for all the help mates.

This is so typical for me. It starts with, "hmm, do I really need such a large and fancy t.v." "to I must have a 42 inch, 1080p ...". It's tough not to get carried away with always wanting more. On the other hand, I don't plan to buy another t.v. for a long time so the 1080p and other goodies weighs heavy with me.

I'm pretty much decided on the LCDs. I actually prefer the picture slighty to the plasmas for whatever reason. I also like the idea of less power consumption.

I won't go with anything slower than 8 ms response time but may have difficulty finding something faster in my buget.

It seems that either LG or Samsung are my two choices right now. The new 1080p Samsungs just came out so I expect that to push the older units (which are still great) costs down.

I'll try to be patient and wait for a few months to see what happens.

Cheers,

J

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Jordan #159029 02/19/07 09:54 PM
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On the other hand, I don't plan to buy another t.v. for a long time so the 1080p and other goodies weighs heavy with me.

The new 1080p Samsungs just came out so I expect that to push the older units (which are still great) costs down.


J




Take a look at this article and you will note that to realize the difference between 1080P and 720P on a 42" Tv you will have to be sitting around 6 ft away. You may end up there, but if not....then I wouldnt worry about 1080P.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hitech/1137/maxing-out-resolution.html
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Jordan #159030 02/20/07 09:02 AM
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And here is another lengthy read on the 720P vs 1080P dilema, long read though. In a nutshell one poster goes on about his research and cites many references and comes to the conclusion that on anything below a 50", buying a 1080P TV is wasted money as your eye can not see the higher resolution. He states you would need to sit about 3-4' away on smaller sets, even closer than the article ctown linked.


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I precently purchased a Toshiba 42 1080 LCD - 42HL196 and highly recommend it. At $1600 it is $400 cheaper than 40 inch models from Sony and the picture from an OTA signal is fantastic.


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Jordan #159032 02/20/07 03:31 PM
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Hi Jordan,

You can read my impressions of the latest LCD displays (mostly 1080p) at the January CES 2007 show here:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/CES_2007.html

I was most impressed by Toshiba's new 1080p LCD panels, as well as the Sharp and Sony LCD displays. Samsung are just a hairsbreadth behind, followed by LG (based on their CES booth demos).

And Jakeman is correct. In one demo of 720p vs 1080p, I had to move within 4 or 5 feet of the 50-inch display to discern any difference. The manufacturer had circled in red the areas of detail on each display to enable viewers to distinguish between them.

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Re: LCD TV Advice
alan #159033 02/20/07 04:49 PM
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Great article Alan. Its the first that I saw of it.

3 things I tend to view similarly that the mfg's are touting.

1. Faster response time in LCD to 4ms is a great improvement.

2. 720P vs. 1080P on "larger TV's" is subtle and you need to get close to really notice. (Its why the next 42" I get for my family room will probably be 720P).

3. Plasma and LCD both great pictures, but I prefer the "more nuanced image" from plasma. Plasma seems to have more depth to my eyes, but I'm not a fan of watching stretched SD images.

Thanks again for the article and the speaker advice earlier. I've got my M22's on order and building my Epic Grand master system in stages.

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