Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Sub ... if you had a choice

I think I would go for the Hsu/Turbo.

Check out This its the craigsub sub-woofer rankings thread hr rates the hsu pretty high.though he only has the ep500 on his list there may be some info for you there.

Somewhere in that craigsub ranking thread (I think) I asked Craig to rank the EP600. I believe he gave it a 92, same as the VTF-HO sans turbo. (avsforum is blocked from work, so I cannot verify this right now )

He doesn't have it ranked in the list like the EP500 though I recall him answering off the cuff when asked. Everyone will rank subs somewhat differently and Craig had just come off listening extensively to the HSU VTF sub. I believe he has stretched to give the Hsu such a high point score relative to the EP600 and his ranking doesn't include several of the excellent Velodyne subs. When asked to provide my ranking I posted the following list based on subs I have heard. I'm sure everyone would have a slightly different list. By the way all these subs would work well in any HT.

1. JL Audio 113 / Velodyne DD-18
2. JL Audio 112
3. Velodyne DD-15
4. Paradigm Servo v2
5. SVS Ultra/2
6. Axiom EP600
7. Velodyne DD-12
8. HSU VTF-3HO + Turbo
9. Axiom EP500
10. HSU VTF-3HO/SVS Ultra
11. Rocket UFW-12
12. HSU VTF-3 Mach III
13. SVS PB12 -Plus/2

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9523837#post9523837

Ahh, here is Craig's EP600 ranking
BTW, I ended up getting the 3-HO w/ Turbo to go with my High Gloss Cherry Axioms... I gotta post pics one of these days
So far, I don't have the sub performing the way I had hoped. But I only put it in one location, so far. I'm getting a BFD to play with also... I have a lot of tweaking yet to do. My first baby is due in 5 weeks, so I think this is called "nesting"

EP600 6th on the list I am interested in the SVS Ultra/2 also. But it is huge .... so isn't the EP600. The I gotta thinking I remember the Paradxxxx Siesmic 12 was a wicked sub.
My porblem is I lve my Axioms, but my room as of now and for the forseeable futre ( 7 years) is only 13 x 18 x 7.5 and as I was re-arranging speaker and stuff last night to see how I am going to construct the room and speaker placements I do not have much room for one EP500 let alone two or a SVS. so I was then think two of these Siesmic 12's which would fit easily. I maybe able to get a Horizontal EP600 and put it in the middle up front and below the tv or Screen. getting really confused as to what I want. HSU is out as they only sell from the USA and can get really costly with shipping, duty, shipping again and broker fees and then tx's.

yeh , right I will find a way one way or another I am not going lower than a EP500

>>My porblem is I lve my Axioms, but my room as of now and for the forseeable futre ( 7 years) is only 13 x 18 x 7.5 and as I was re-arranging speaker and stuff last night to see how I am going to construct the room and speaker placements I do not have much room for one EP500 let alone two or a SVS.

This is important information. For this room size you don't need to worry so much about getting up into EP600 or Ultra/2 territory. A single EP500 is one of the smallest "killer subs" you can get.