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Re: Having seconds thoughts....need advice!
axiom_man #165414 04/15/07 09:46 PM
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Would the 175 be OK for a 15 by 17 by 8.5 room?

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Dave1009 #165415 04/15/07 10:24 PM
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If you want a sub then the Outlaw LFM-1 plus M22s would be nice $976

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bugbitten #165416 04/15/07 10:41 PM
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Are you an Outlaw fan? I was originally going to buy the Marantz 5100 but now am probably going to order the Outlaw 1070 before my speakers get shipped.

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That's a nice price on the LFM 1.


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Re: Having seconds thoughts....need advice!
Wid #165418 04/16/07 02:04 AM
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Agree! Then I might not have to wait to get the sub either, since I see Outlaw has a deal if you buy from them on credit for no interest for 12 months!

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Dave1009 #165419 04/16/07 02:47 AM
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Dave, on the M22 question, my input is that it's been five years now since I got mine and no second thoughts about their superb performance have arisen. Of course, as I've revealed before, I had upgraditis as a child and apparently developed an immunity, so take that into account.


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JohnK #165420 04/16/07 10:35 AM
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Quote:

I had upgraditis as a child and apparently developed an immunity




My wife is working on a vaccine.

I'll keep everyone posted.


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Dave1009 #165421 04/16/07 12:33 PM
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Check out the combo deals at outlaw. (SHOP)

Re: Having seconds thoughts....need advice!
Dave1009 #165422 04/16/07 03:46 PM
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Just to add fuel to the fire...

No one here has ever said, "I finally bit the bullet and bought M22's to replace my M60's. Can't believe I waited this long!". But you will find the inverse happening from time to time.

Unless your specific situation (room size, WAF, budget, etc) requires bookshelves, the M60 or M80 will sound 'better'. More bass, more presence, more capability. More better speaker goodness.

That said, I was relatively satisfied with my M22+crappy sub setup for a couple of years. Upgrading the sub made a world of difference, and if that hadn't started a massive upgradeitis flare-up, I would have been quite content with that. M22's are *excellent* speakers for the money. I'm using mine as rear surrounds and it makes me sad that they don't get more use. Eventually they will find their way to my office where they will once again be happy....

But M22's can't compete with the M80's. Owning both, I know this for a fact. And according to most, M80's are only a slight upgrade from the M60's.

So my advice? If you haven't even made it 30 days and are playing the 'what if' game, then you're not completely satisfied with the speakers. If you can afford the upgrade, do it.

If you're skipping the sub, the m22's just won't work unless you are going to use them for like extreme near-field speakers (like desktop monitors). They have no bass below about 60hz and you will find them lacking if you're going to ask them to do much bass. With a decent sub (Axiom, SVS, HSU, etc), they are delightful for home theater and very good for stereo. But if you want a rich, full, and lush soundstage, with jaw-dropping dynamics and the ability to 'blow women's clothes off' (sorry, just watched The Italian Job again) floor-standers (M50/M60/M80) are the way to go.


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MarkSJohnson #165423 04/16/07 06:36 PM
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Quote:

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I had upgraditis as a child and apparently developed an immunity




My wife is working on a vaccine.


I'll keep everyone posted.




Please hurry, I feel a severe case coming on......


Jason
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