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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
cgrface #166069 04/22/07 10:02 PM
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Do you have the CI version?




No, I didn't need any of the extra stuff the CI had.


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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
cgrface #166070 04/22/07 11:31 PM
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Bud, there don't appear to be 4 ohm power lab measurements of the 4806 available online, and subjective comments on power shouldn't be given much weight on a point controlled by objective test standards. The closest info of value in the matter may be Clint's 4306 measurements in his Audioholics review. The numbers appear to be impressive enough(click on graph to enlarge)and adding 5-10% might be a fair estimate for the 4806. In any case, there wouldn't appear to be a need to seriously doubt that the 4806 had enough maximum power capacity for the vast majority of home applications without adding separate amplification.


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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
HomeDad #166071 04/22/07 11:32 PM
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Do you have the CI version?




No, I didn't need any of the extra stuff the CI had.




From the reviews on AVS, the PC integration on the ethernet access was pretty basic and wouldn't allow access to all iPod music files. People were more satisfied with the SqueezeBox access than the CI access, albeit a much more expensive approach.

I was interested in the 1080p/HDMI passthrough abilities, but there seems to be some problems there too. I'm still on the fence with that one.


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JohnK #166072 04/22/07 11:47 PM
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Thank you John, Very helpful information. As I mentioned before, I have not found the limits of the 4806 with respect to driving volume, but I haven't listened to too much stuff above -5 to +5 volume settings.


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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
JohnK #166073 04/22/07 11:54 PM
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That's a decent amount of power the 4306 is putting into 4-ohms, even if the 4806 had only a 5% increase of the 4306 it sounds like the difference of using my Aragon amp at 300wpc in 4ohms and using the Denon's amps would be relatively insignificant.


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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
HomeDad #166074 04/23/07 12:24 AM
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Crank doesn’t have a PCM option?? Are you sure? I rented this one from Net Flicks so I don’t have it on hand but I distinctly remember is having this option cause I was experimenting with this disk. Some of these dam BR disks have weird navigation menus. I have the Prestige and you have to push the stupid select button to get it to advance to each choice. I thought the disk was bad and watched it in regular DTS. Then I had to watch it again after I figured out the menu and got the PCM track to play. (not a bad movie, but not all that great either)

Remember, all these BR’s with the Uncompressed tracks will not show up as DD or DST. The PS3 is doing the decoding and sending the receiver an unpacked PCM data stream. The display will show what the stream is (5.1, 6.1 7.1). When you select a DD, THX or DTS option, all the receiver is doing, is applying a post process matrix that you select.

I have my PS3 audio set up in Manual with every box checked and audio out as PCM. Then when I watch a movie that only has DTS or DD audio (and no PCM option), I go into the PS3 and change the output to auto. Some of the older disks don’t have PCM, like First Blood or The Searchers.

And if you ever want to know what the PS3 is sending your receiver, hit the square button and at the top of the screen you’ll see the info. – in case you didn’t know….

I’m pretty stoked for you Michael. The Lossless audio on these HD/BR disks is like going from WMA to SACD. You’re really going to enjoy the heck out of your system now.

Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
michael_d #166075 04/23/07 01:57 AM
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Crank does have the 6.1 PCM option, in the manual sound setup on my ps3 there is no option for 6.1 linear PCM only 5.1, 7.1. as well as Dolby 5.1 and DTS 5.1, I also have every box checked. What was strange, when I played Crank and used the Square button to show the info, the ps3 was sending a 7.1 LPCM signal to my receiver.
And thanks for the other info. now I don't have to worry why the display on the receiver doesn't act the same as when an optical signal is going in.


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Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
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No prob. My opologies, I mistook you earlier with the six channel thing. Now I'm curious and have to see if my PS3 has a six channel option.

Not that it matters much, but do you have the latest PS3 firmware installed?

Re: Denon 3805 out 4806 in.
michael_d #166077 04/23/07 03:13 PM
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I installed the lastest firmaware for the PS3 this weekend when I was setting up the 4806.
Jumping back from the other thread, that Toshiba XA2 looks like the perfect player for me, that's going on my shortlist, thanks for the heads up on that.


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