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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
HomeDad #166532 05/26/07 08:07 PM
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Two Y-adapters in series with one .

Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
Mojo #166533 05/26/07 08:52 PM
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Homedad, you can daisy chain your subs by using the line-out of one sub to the line-in of the next, and so on.

Mojo, you need treatments, simple as that. Your walls/corners are totaly bare. Just play your test tones from your denon, and then walk to any corner in your room and see the results of the spl meter.


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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
SirQuack #166534 05/26/07 08:56 PM
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Randy,

I don't listen to my system while sitting in a corner . There is one sweet spot in my house my friend. And it's all mine . And if it's flat and tight in that one spot, I'm one happy camper.

Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
Mojo #166535 05/26/07 08:57 PM
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Yes but treating the room correctly affects the overall response of the entire room, not just the corners.


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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
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This graph shows by just adding the two superchunk bass traps in my front two corners, how it affected my primary listening position, the mic never moved.




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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
SirQuack #166537 05/26/07 09:05 PM
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Here is the last time I used RoomEQ Wizard when I had m60's and an ep500. This graph is taken from the primary position with two front corner bass traps, side first reflection panels, and ceiling first reflection panels.




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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
SirQuack #166538 05/26/07 09:16 PM
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I wonder how a system like Audyssey using several mic positions would effect the total room response, I don't have graphs, but it sure helped my room, it would be an interesting comparison.


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Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
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Randy,

Do you have the ability to remove your side reflection panels? I'd be curious to hear if your perception of spaciousness increases with them removed. I want to be very careful as I don't want to have a dead-sounding room. Right now, the sound in my room has a very good sense of spatiousness and imaging. And I expect the imaging to improve once I treat the ceiling.

A flat response in the room is one goal. Correct imaging and control of reflections for spatiousness is another.

Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
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I'm curious about Audyssey myself. When I get a receiver equipped with auto-EQ, I plan on focusing it only on my sweet spot. That way, I should get the optimum results.

If you get the time, can you do that and let us know your opinion of multi-zone EQ vs. "sweet-spot EQ"?

Re: Crossover on the EP subs.
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My side panels can easily be removed as they are hanging with picture frame wire and are not that heavy. It is very hard to deaden a room unless you cover the entire walls/ceilings with treatments.

Treating the first reflection points improves the overall sound as your not hearing the same sound arriving at your ears at different times, just the direct sound.

If you try the clap test, my guess is that you will hear an echo of your clap off the walls.

People think acoustic panels are only designed for recording studios, this could not be further from the truth.

Once I added my FRZ panels I immediately noticed the clarity of the music was more accurate and detailed. I've proved this with Blind listening test where I've had users listen to the same songs right after the other. In between songs I would either remove or add my panels and they would tell wich version of various songs sounded better. The majority of the time they picked the song with panels added.


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