Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners New M3's lacking low end. Any suggestions?

Strat, welcome. As the graphs which Rich Goldstein linked illustrate, it could reasonably be argued that the M3s have slightly better bass response than the Era D4s, aside from the effect of the even more pronounced upper-bass boost which the Era has around 100-200Hz. This gives an impression of better bass, both for bass fundamentals in that range and the upper harmonics of weak lower bass notes being louder lending an impression of lower extension than actually exists(a well-known effect which makers of small speakers often employ).

As was already suggested, a little more room reinforcement can be had by placement 3-4" from the wall behind, which is still enough "breathing room" for the ports. Generally, with room reinforcement speakers such as the M3 and M22 will have good response down to at least the 50Hz area and users(including me)find that reasonably adequate for most music(pipe organs excluded)even without a sub. Of course, as was said, a sub helps even on music.

I wonder if the v2 has less bass emphasis than the earlier legendary SE and previous models of the M3...?

The newer v2 graphs shows the bass at about the same level or just a bit below the upper mids, while the earlier NRC published graphs through SoundStage show the bass to be about 2db higher.

It could be that the overall response is flatter than the older M3s, but that the bass is a solid but silly 2 to 3 db less.

Maybe what the OP needs is a set of older M3TiSEs.

.....sorry....mine ain't for sale.

I might be losing my mind, but I think the M3's are starting to sound better. They've been moved around a bit and the bass is now satisfying.

I wanted to thank everyone for the help.

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Your Brain is breaking in.

Or perhaps the speakers themselves are actually breaking in. Like UFOs, cold fusion, the Easter Bunny, or an effective government, some folks believe the phenomenon exists.

I know more people that do than don't. Ergo, it's true.

<-- Note the wink, people!

Back to reality....

You mentioned that you moved them around, and I bet that had something to do with it. You didn't, per chance, move the M3's closer to a corner? That would boost their bass response a bit.

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Your Brain is breaking in.

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Peter,

Your durn lucky you put that in thar.

Could break-in theoretically happen with speakers made from unconventional materials? Is it known for a fact that no material has a gradual break-in period? Just curious.

I'm not sure what you mean by "unconventional materials". A traditional electromechanical speaker takes less than a minute to break in initially. During this period, the spider compliance changes. After that, it takes a few seconds of play each time you use it to break in again. Your ears would never notice the difference. I do believe however that the human auditory system becomes accustomed to the sound and the more you listen, the more details you will hear.