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New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speakers
#171450 06/29/07 11:14 PM
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Hi folks,

I'm new to Axiom, but I've heard good things about their speakers. I have had the same 5.1 speaker set-up since graduate school, and I thought it might be time to upgrade to enjoy my HD-DVD/Blu-Ray uncompressed sound a little more...

I currently have the Energy Take 5 system (circa 1998) plus an Energy 10" subwoofer. I think my center speaker in the weakest link, as dialog is not always as clear as I would like it to be. My initial plan is to purchase new front and center speakers, and possibly move my Energy satellites to the rear for a 7.1 configuration (although it will take some wiring through the ceiling).

What set up would you recommend?

Config 1:
Mounted M22 bookshelves for the left and right
VP150 for the center

Config 2:
Mounted M22 bookshelves for the left, right and one more for the center

Which would give the best sound? Also - I have to mount the center above the TV, since there is no room for a speaker that large in my TV stand... AND I don't think there are any studs in the wall above the TV (it's an alcove). Can the VP150 and/or an M22 be mounted from a stud in the ceiling? Or are anchors in any way safe for mounting these speakers above a valuable TV?

Thanks for you help!

Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speakers
ajg #171451 06/30/07 02:12 AM
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AJ, welcome. In general I'd suggest that using three identical vertical speakers across the front would give you the best sound. From what you describe, the placement of the center speaker is going to be a problem, but can you place the M22 on the floor directly below the screen and possibly tilted up a bit? All sorts of wall or ceiling mountings have been used(even hanging from the ceiling by chains)and possibly some may comment on that.


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ajg #171452 06/30/07 02:14 AM
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I can't tell you about the VP150, but I use 3 M22 up front and the sound is awesome. It is not easy to place an M22 near from the tv, but the result is impressive for me. But, I'm no expert, I'll let the others speak.


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JohnK #171453 06/30/07 02:40 AM
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AJ, welcome. In general I'd suggest that using three identical vertical speakers across the front would give you the best sound. From what you describe, the placement of the center speaker is going to be a problem, but can you place the M22 on the floor directly below the screen and possibly tilted up a bit? All sorts of wall or ceiling mountings have been used(even hanging from the ceiling by chains)and possibly some may comment on that.




Not really an option... but it looks like the ceiling mount that Axiom sells accomodates the M22. So - an M22 makes a better center speaker than the other?

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JohnK #171454 06/30/07 04:43 AM
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JohnK,

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(even hanging from the ceiling by chains)and possibly some may comment on that.










You do mean the SPEAKERS, right?.............


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LT61 #171455 06/30/07 05:10 AM
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Larry, a true audiophile should be willing to put up with a little discomfort in positioning himself to best advantage with relation to his speakers.


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JohnK #171456 06/30/07 05:18 AM
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Anyone else have any input on this?

A rep from Axiom said that the M22 in the center is fine if the seating area is pretty straight on. If not, the VP150 will distribute the center sound better.

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ajg #171458 06/30/07 11:38 PM
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3 identicle fronts will give you the best match and soundstage. But this is not to say the 100 or 150 won't match well.

Not sure I follow the Axiom reps logic as the 22's should have a good horizontal dispersion. I supposed since the vp150 has two tweeters on each end, that may help for a wider room. How big is your room?

For me the 150 works fine with my m80's


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SirQuack #171459 07/01/07 12:45 AM
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Are there NO studs in the wall where you would mount the center or just not any that are in the center to mount the speaker. If they are just not in the center you could try cutting a thin sheet of plywood in a rectangle that would span the studs and give you a solid mounting for the center chanel where you need it.

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