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Re: Amps
chesseroo #176678 09/19/07 02:59 AM
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pmbuko #176679 09/19/07 03:02 AM
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Heh heh heh...


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pmbuko #176680 09/19/07 03:04 AM
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Speaking of amps, i've got a Perreaux coming soon for 'auditioning' hopefully.
I'm also considering picking up a Parasound Halo for future speaker comparisons and daily use with the Tannoys. The price has come down far enough on used A21s for me to consider looking past the heat and the background noise level.




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chesseroo #176681 09/19/07 03:06 AM
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Ah. Those are the ones I've heard. Now the processor that goes with it was a bit wonky (at Sunil's house), but the amps seemed very nice.


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Ken.C #176682 09/19/07 03:11 AM
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Now the processor that goes with it was a bit wonky (at Sunil's house), but the amps seemed very nice.



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Re: Amps
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Intermittent channel outages, fixed by reboots or cold restarts.


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RickF #176684 09/19/07 07:22 PM
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Shag if I remember correctly aren't you over in the Tampa Bay area? If your friend cares to make a three or so hour trip due east to Vero Beach he can demo our 80s powered by a 300 watt Rotel amp ... we'll connect 'em up to the 75 wpc H/K 635 and maybe we can also hook 'em up to a pos 1/2 watt something or other I can scrape up from around here someplace. He can then be the judge!

I know it's a hike but you guys are more than welcome to use the system.




I have the Epic 80/EP 350 hooked up to an HK AVR630. In the room I have my system, it plays way louder than I would ever listen to it. He decided to go with Axioms after hearing my system, so we already have that as an example. Who knows, maybe I'll suggest we take a trip over and find out what M80's with 330w sounds like.

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Your friend's Denon is shutting down into protection mode?




It would probably never hit protection mode if he wouldn't keep trying to play it with the volume at +6, which happens to be it's max volume setting. At 0 volume it plays perfect, loud and never hits protection mode.


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chesseroo #176685 09/19/07 07:33 PM
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I keep reading about all these posts talking of power and room volume.
Distance is a key variable that is being left out.

Mojo, you say such a power output is loud for your system, but at what listening distance?
8 feet?
16 feet?
24 feet?

I see no reason to doubt that anyone with a common living room of 8 foot ceilings, maybe 12 feet wide and 18 feet long (under 2000 cubic feet) would be needing something larger than a typical receiver to hit 100+ dB at the 18 foot mark pushing 4 ohm speakers compared to a listening distance of 10 feet.

I have an Anthem amp (225w /ch) driving Tannoys (93 db/W/m) and at 18 feet, it starts to clip around the 100-104 dB point. Driving them with a Coda amp at 300w/ch, Class A into the first 20W provided levels of 106-108 peak but it was so loud i never pushed it to clipping.
At 15 feet my Onkyo 797 starts to distort around the 94dB mark with these Tannoys.

Don't underestimate the power and reserve capacity of bigger amps.




My friend's room must be more than 8000+ sqft and thats probably not including the kitchen and dining room which make up the whole great room. Vaulted ceiling but only from 8ft to 11 or 12 ft. Viewing distance from the tv is probably 12-16 ft depending on where you sit in the room. Although he never watches movies at that volume. It's music that gets cranked up.

I keep telling him he's just crazy, but exploring the options he requested.


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shag #176686 09/19/07 08:42 PM
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This site Amplifier Power Required may be of help in determining the ball-park amp power that may be needed.

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