Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
#177472 09/30/07 01:58 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 274
local
OP Offline
local
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 274
The technicalities of it:

http://www.iar-80.com/page128.html

Sounds like it depends on your player - a good player will really sound better (as long as your speakers are good and receiver is decent).

Any comments? Sometimes I wonder. It seems the recording process is more important than the final version. But, my listening room has poor acoustics and my SACD player is an old Pioneer. I have heard people say a cheap Sony SACD player will sound better.

Any direction based on actual research?

Sorry if this link has already been posted - I haven't been around for a while.


M22s, QS4s, M2 center, Hsu stf-1.
Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
donaldekelly #177473 09/30/07 02:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 274
local
OP Offline
local
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 274
As I search around - it seems people really like the relatively cheap oppo brand universal players.

And now there are newer formats? HD DVD and Bluray? Are they competition for audio?


M22s, QS4s, M2 center, Hsu stf-1.
Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
donaldekelly #177474 09/30/07 06:52 AM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
shareholder in the making
Offline
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
Yeah Don, it's the initial recording process and the mixing and mastering that's applied to it which determines the quality of a recording, not whether it winds up on CD, DVD-A, or SACD. Other than not having the capacity for multi-channel discrete surround sound(which processing such as DPLII can at least partially substitute for), the CD format has frequency response and dynamic range capability which is more than adequate for human ears and the material which we listen to, despite claims to the contrary in the IAR article.


-----------------------------------

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.


Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
donaldekelly #177475 09/30/07 11:38 AM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,488
Likes: 9
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,488
Likes: 9
There is more to it than just multi-channel. Because of dynamic range limitation on a CD, studios are using dynamic compression to logarithmically reduce the highest peaks without having to reduce low levels. At this point, what you listen to becomes very important. For rock and other nearly-always-at-full-volume music, the difference would be more negligeable. For classical, the difference is HUGE. An orchestra starts sounding like an orchestra and you get the full benefits of dynamics. I don't own any SACDs, but I have about 25 DVD-Audios.


See Mojo's signature
Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
EFalardeau #177476 10/01/07 03:37 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,236
axiomite
Offline
axiomite
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,236
When done well, multi-channel mixes can be quite stunning. Couple that with the fact that most albums that end up in either SACD or DVD-A format ARE recorded very well. (They tend not to try polishing a turd). What that means is as far as audio quality goes, most SACD's and DVD-A's sound REAL good.

Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
spiffnme #177477 10/01/07 03:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,301
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,301
I agree, as I've stated before a great SACD vs a great CD is like going from SD TV to HD TV.


A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Re: SACDs and DVD-As Do sound better ?
EFalardeau #177478 10/01/07 05:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,602
B
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
B
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,602
Quote:

There is more to it than just multi-channel. Because of dynamic range limitation on a CD, studios are using dynamic compression to logarithmically reduce the highest peaks without having to reduce low levels.


Actually, it's a listener preference thing. Dynamic range on a CD is somewhere around 90dB - much higher than reel-to-reel, vinyl, cassette, or 8-track. Pop/rock audio engineers all mix for "da wall o' sound" now. It's sad, but that's the way of the world.

Bren R.


Moderated by  alan, Amie, Andrew, axiomadmin, Brent, Debbie, Ian, Jc 

Link Copied to Clipboard

Need Help Graphic

Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics24,945
Posts442,477
Members15,617
Most Online2,082
Jan 22nd, 2020
Top Posters
Ken.C 18,044
pmbuko 16,441
SirQuack 13,840
CV 12,077
MarkSJohnson 11,458
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 946 guests, and 5 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newsletter Signup
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4