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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177653 10/04/07 04:23 PM
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Is it possible that you just need some junk in your room?

Do you have bare walls and hardwood in that room, or have you got bookshelves and carpet and other things to break up the reflections?

My sound improved after I put a microwave on bench off to the side where there was formerly just a big empty wall.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177654 10/04/07 05:51 PM
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This latest idea of the source just made me realize I need to try the M60s with the DVD player. I will report later.....




FWIW, I did find the mids/uppers a little more distinct with the digital off the dvd player compared to the analog cd player, but not enough to come close to the M22 using analog.

I did hear more sibilance on the digital feed when using the M22s alone.




Are you saying I need to purchase M80's, ?




No, the M80s are just as bad as the M22 for upper end, the M82 combo is what you are looking for , which means you need M60s in parallel with the M22s. The 60s take any edge off the M22s. I am getting to like this combo more and more. Switch off the M22s when a poor cd is in the player and switch them back on for good ones. Movies are having more richness and fuller sound as well!


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jakewash #177655 10/04/07 08:13 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm trying my best to follow along.

Is it *possible* that the XBox as the source is the problem for DVD's? Is there a chance you can try your setup with another (stand-alone) DVD player and see if the results are different?

Are there adjustable output settings on an XBox? Seems like you're only having trouble with DVD's, so perhaps it is the DVD player rather than the speakers or the receiver.


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paradoiley #177656 10/04/07 10:19 PM
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Is it possible that you just need some junk in your room?

Do you have bare walls and hardwood in that room, or have you got bookshelves and carpet and other things to break up the reflections?

My sound improved after I put a microwave on bench off to the side where there was formerly just a big empty wall.




Probably. I have hardwoods and fairly bare walls. Small room.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
tomtuttle #177657 10/04/07 10:20 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm trying my best to follow along.

Is it *possible* that the XBox as the source is the problem for DVD's? Is there a chance you can try your setup with another (stand-alone) DVD player and see if the results are different?

Are there adjustable output settings on an XBox? Seems like you're only having trouble with DVD's, so perhaps it is the DVD player rather than the speakers or the receiver.




Step ahead of you. I'm going to borrow a PS3 to test some DVD's and Blu-Rays next week.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
Hutzal #177658 10/04/07 10:24 PM
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JBS,

you might be more happy with a couple of M2s wired in parallel, or a couple of M22 centre channels. (vertically orientated of course).

just a suggestion.




Ok Hutzal. I switched the Right M22 with the Center Channel. And the results are........

Less harshness. But exaggerated S's are still there. Most evident from the Center channel. I'm assuming it was only less because the fact I was down 1 tweeter and driver.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177659 10/04/07 11:37 PM
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I can get my hands on a Onkyo TX-SR705 to borrow for some testing. How would this compare to my H/K 635?


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177660 10/04/07 11:46 PM
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I think it would be comparable enough for you to tell if the receiver is the problem.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177661 10/05/07 01:39 AM
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If its not better with the PS3 nor Onkyo, and as your room is quite reflective, I will suggest that you will need some wall/floor treatments, which isn't a bad idea regardless of the outcome.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jakewash #177662 10/05/07 01:44 AM
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Jason, you saw and heard how bright my room was. Did you notice any of the symptoms that bsengineer is reporting?

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