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Re: It just doen't sound right
SoundMan #179320 10/17/07 05:56 PM
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Very odd. I have the same gear as you, and the only time that I have had something sound like what you say, is when I am in the wrong audio processing mode, such as 5 speaker "3D" or some simulated surround like DTS:Neo6 or ProLogicII instead of making sure that the source is playing 5.1 and my receiver is matched. Actually, now that I think about it, as long as the DVD player is NOT set to 2 channel audio output, the receiver autoswitches to the correct audio (as would pretty much all receivers), but I popped in the first Harry Potter movie this past weekend, and the sound was a lot like you said. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anywhere on the disk to change from 2 channel to 5.1... Very strange. I never did check the DVD box to make sure that it even had a 5.1 track on it. You would sure think so, but I got the first 4 movies as a "box set" which seemed to be a mix of "2 disc special editions" and some regular single disc editions depending on the movie.

Anyway, it is at those times when a movie doesn't default to a 5.1 sound track that I notice what you are saying. Some worse than others.

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Re: It just doen't sound right
nickbuol #179321 10/17/07 05:58 PM
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Could it be that the DVD player is set to PCM instead of bitsteam? It happened to me once (a "friend" had played with my settings) and it took me a while to figure out why my surround sound sounded different.


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Re: It just doen't sound right
EFalardeau #179322 10/17/07 06:07 PM
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I, too, was wondering if it was the settings on the DVD player since music doesn't seem to have the same problem...(?)


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Re: It just doen't sound right
Mojo #179326 10/17/07 06:25 PM
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Did anyone notice where he said that he is running "all" of his speakers as large???? That is a big no-no! \:o

Maybe you will get away with the M60's as large, but as for the VP150 and the QS8's you definitely need to set them as SMALL!

What you are doing is trying to run very low frequencies through drivers that cannot handle it. So not only are you possibly overloading the speakers but you may be clipping your receiver at the same time.


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Re: It just doen't sound right
Joey #179328 10/17/07 06:51 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Joey
Did anyone notice where he said that he is running "all" of his speakers as large???? That is a big no-no! \:o

Maybe you will get away with the M60's as large, but as for the VP150 and the QS8's you definitely need to set them as SMALL!


At least at higher volume levels, at low volume levels the QS8s (to my ears anyway) sounded a bit better when the entire signal was routed to them. But he definitely needs to set the QS8s and 150 to "small" and the cutoff in the 80 Hz range (YMMV), that cured a good portion of some similar issues I thought I was having. Pilot error ... as usual. ;\)

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Joey #179329 10/17/07 06:53 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Joey
Did anyone notice where he said that he is running "all" of his speakers as large???? That is a big no-no! \:o

Maybe you will get away with the M60's as large, but as for the VP150 and the QS8's you definitely need to set them as SMALL!

What you are doing is trying to run very low frequencies through drivers that cannot handle it. So not only are you possibly overloading the speakers but you may be clipping your receiver at the same time.


Oh Crap! I hope it didn't damage anything. I didn't notice any clipping so i don't think so, but still not worth the risk. I figured since I was running without a sub, I could set it to large. I'll make some adjustments and try again.

Re: It just doen't sound right
SoundMan #179332 10/17/07 07:55 PM
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I was going to say that he has no sub...so he midaswell run them as large for now...


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Re: It just doen't sound right
Hutzal #179339 10/17/07 09:19 PM
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I wouldn't worry about damaging anything when set to large.


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Re: It just doen't sound right
Hutzal #179340 10/17/07 09:20 PM
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I think that you will be fine with them on "Large" as far as damaging them. No worries there. It will impact the sound, but like you said, there is something bigger going on here.

I've had my set up on "Large" for all of the speakers for a little while (even with a sub), but prefer small, even though they can handle it.

Check out your DVD player, or heck, plug in another one. Even a cheap one, and see if it is any better.

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Re: It just doen't sound right
Hutzal #179360 10/17/07 10:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Hutzal
I was going to say that he has no sub...so he midaswell run them as large for now...
Another golden typo?


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