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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
Mojo #180489 10/25/07 03:40 AM
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just keep swimming, swimming, swimming, just keep swimming, swimming, ummm are you my conscience, lol


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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
SirQuack #180499 10/25/07 09:34 AM
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Here is a link to the entire page of Pear's graph and the test. If you click the link to 'competitors', Axiom is listed.


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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
jakewash #180507 10/25/07 03:03 PM
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next time ask him if he was comparing 100 ft of 28 gauge to 100 feet of 10 gauge...

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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
jakewash #180509 10/25/07 03:09 PM
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They also list themselves as competition.

Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
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 Originally Posted By: Hutzal
next time ask him if he was comparing 100 ft of 28 gauge to 100 feet of 10 gauge...

sheesh.


They state it is 12 gauge 14ft long, but it doesn't state whether or not it is a tube amp vs electronic nor whether or not the load was the same at each end.

What caught my eye was the fact the interconnects are 5 meters long. Why so long? For most configurations less than 1 meter will do.

Also this... "Because this system utilizes just 5.25" coaxial speakers, the low frequency roll-off can clearly be seen in both cases, but this has nothing to do with the cables. This is due to the fact that the system was not designed to play low frequency bass, and cuts that information out."
Was this due to the amplifiers being crossed over at 150hz or as they suggest due to speaker design. I would not think that due to a speakers inabilty to reproduce low frequency, the signal to it should also drop off. Does it?

I have a question about the Coaxials they were using or just in general. Do they not have a limited high frequency range as well? If so this could lead to the sloping graph at the higher frequency range, if the speaker design is the cause of the poor graph upto 150hz?


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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
jakewash #180547 10/25/07 06:47 PM
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Jason, don't waste your time. If this was a reputable company, they would create a test environment and procedure that is repeatable and transparent. This is a ridiculous system test in my opinion.


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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
Mojo #180550 10/25/07 07:15 PM
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I know, I've just been trying to figure out how they can come up with their result thats all. To have a curved graph just seems wrong, but like you said its a waste of time.


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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
Mojo #180551 10/25/07 07:18 PM
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I know, I've just been trying to figure out how they can come up with their result thats all. To have a curved graph just seems wrong, but like you said it's a waste of time.

Oh no I have a Mojo problem;\)

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Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
jakewash #180567 10/25/07 09:56 PM
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I like the article update on Gizmodo today. Seems Pear backed out loaning cables but Randi/Fremer are still open to testing. Hmm.

Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge
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Yahoo!: 10 Worst Tech Products of 2007

Pear Cable's "Anjou" speaker cable makes the list.

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