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#187996 - 12/14/07 07:24 AM Need advice on subwoofer
hammer Offline

Registered: 11/09/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Ohio
I am looking for a sub to go with my M60s, QS$, and VP-100 setup.
First, do you guys think I need a sub? To me, the setup it sounds very crsip and accurate but the bass response is not terribly powerful. My "theatre" room is roughly 20 x 12 x 8. We usually listen to way more music than watch movies so I am mostly interested in subs that can reproduce music accurately. I am not looking for big booms that are overdone. Searching the forums it sounds like Hsu and Velodyne are good ones to look at. What about Axiom, Aperion? I am avoiding mass market (Polk, JBL, Infinity, etc) but maybe there is a gem in there?
Your thoughts and collective experience is appreciated.

AV equipment (in case you care)Panasonic TH-50PE700U,PS3 80GB,HK 445,Axiom M60,QS4,VP100,Hsu VTF2.3

#187998 - 12/14/07 07:37 AM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: hammer]
mcad64 Offline

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 32
Loc: A Place to Stand, A Place to G...
SVS is an online only company that used to just make subs but has now branched into speakers as well. Most who have an SVS sub rave about them?!

#188019 - 12/14/07 10:18 AM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: hammer]
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16437
Loc: Ben Lomond, California
If I were in your shoes, I'd keep Axiom, SVSound, and Hsu Research on my short list. All three companies make great subs, thought the latter two brands can be had for a bit less money.
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#188024 - 12/14/07 10:32 AM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: pmbuko]
JaimeG Offline

Registered: 12/25/02
Posts: 556
Loc: Ashburn, VA
I also have M60s and mostly use them for music. Trust me; a nicely calibrated sub would definitely enhance your music listening experience. I bought a relatively cheap sub, the HSU2.3, and for the price I love it. Granted, I've never listened to a decent sub like the EP500/600, I would love to, and see what I'm missing...
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#188026 - 12/14/07 10:46 AM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: JaimeG]
Worfzara Offline

Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 734
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
You might consider a single or pair of EP175(s). I had this sub and really liked it for music. Very tight and musical. My first call to Alan Loft, he recommend this configuration.

It was great for music, but bottomed out in my 4000 cubic foot room for movies. So I upgraded to an EP500. However, your room is only 1920 cubic feet, so if you really not looking for the earth shattering bass, the 175 is a great little addition.

Mojo and I have talked in the past about getting a pair of EP175s just for music. I've got to get around to trying that some time.


Axiom M80, VP180, Qs8, EP500
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#188066 - 12/14/07 12:01 PM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: Worfzara]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10415
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
If you truly are not interested in a sub for HT then the EP400 is it, but it will not shake the house for HT. I ran the EP400 with my M80s in a room very similar to yours and it filled in the low end perfectly, not loud and boomy. I had a Hsu STF2 in the house at the same time and I didn't have time to get it dialed in, but I felt it was too much for music, just a little too loud. I have heard Mojo's EP600 and it blends very nicely with his M80's but his room is twice the size of yours and mine.

AS you say the M60 alone don't have enough bass then you may in fact prefer more bass than you think. When I had the M60s, before getting the M80s, I felt they had lots of bass but I was going from M22s and a poor sub. I am still considering getting the EP400 just because it works so great for music.


#188081 - 12/14/07 12:29 PM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: jakewash]
Hutzal Offline

Registered: 07/26/06
Posts: 2102
Loc: Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3)
The EP350v3 sounds to be a great musical and HT sub, I think that it would probably be a good sub for your requirements.
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#188084 - 12/14/07 12:35 PM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: Worfzara]
bugbitten Offline

Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 2339
Loc: Madisonville, KY
I realy like how my sealed sub works with my 2 channel system.

Axiom EP400, AV123 ULW 10, or similar.

#188085 - 12/14/07 12:40 PM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: Hutzal]
Wid Offline

Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6789
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

Jason, that was an STF 3 you had which is now discontinued. I would look at the same three companies already listed. SVS is located in Ohio so maybe a visit to the factory is in order.

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#188087 - 12/14/07 12:49 PM Re: Need advice on subwoofer [Re: Wid]
tomtuttle Offline

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8488
Loc: Tacoma
My impression from Aperion is that they don't spend the same amount of time on sub-specific R&D as the other companies that have been mentioned.
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