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I think the M60 might sound closer to the Studio 60s and the M80s closer to the 100s but it is really getting into the finer points to make the differences between Paradigms and Axioms, never A/B'd any except the Monitor 11s to the 80s and the 80s won out, just my impressions while out and about.

Paradigm and Axiom sounding harsh is a quite common complaint for those not accustomed to the extra detail they provide.

It's been a while since I listened to Paradigms but I do agree with some of your assessments. I also preferred the Studios to the Monitors. I also found the Monitors somewhat "muffled".

At the time, I A/B'ed them with Whafedale EVO 20's (I think) and actually preferred the Wharfedale. I think they felt a bit more forward. That being said, I took a gamble on the M22's with an Hsu VTF2 and haven't looked back. VERY happy with the result.

Thanks Jason. I read the monitor 11 a/b thread. Sounds like they were really close.

I think I will go back and compare the studio 60, 100 and monitor 11 to see what works best for me. The M80s are in reach if I decide thats the sound I want. No WAF to worry about so I can put huge honkin speakers in my apartment if I want to.

I'm glad you chimed in oldskool. There seem to be a few here on the board that are very happy with the M22 and sub. I also need to listen to some music with Neo6 or the Dolby equivelant to see how I like my music in 5.1 Allen Loft seems to quite like his music this way so it seems worth a listen.

If I really like what I hear in 5.1, the M22 and sub would be the way to go as it would get me to 5.1 the fastest.

Hmm... May not last until spring... may have to visit Axiom sooner to listen to all these options.

I wish there were someone closer than 3 hours away with M22s I could listen to. I would really like to know how they sound. I know some feel they are a little too 'honest' in their presentation.

By the way oldskool. Why did you go with an Hsu sub instead of one from axiom?

Thanks again for all your help everyone!

Fred

Or go listen to some B&W 703's or higher as they are similar to the 80's as well.

I could do that too. It would be interesting to listen to a few speakers that are similar to the Axioms in one session. Unfortunately this particular store only carries Paradigm and Bose.

Fred

I went with the Hsu on some recommendations from some old posters. Anyone remember Sushi?

I found a B stock for $350 shipped. It had a smudge on top that came off with Simple Green. Still have it, though it's been stuffed many times w/ toys from my son...

Remember sushi??? On this forum there are three eras: Before sushi, during sushi, and after sushi.

I fall into the during Sushi era, but just barely.

Fred, I also have the M22s and even with a sub they are not as good as the M80s. If I had never heard them side by side I wouldn't know I was missing out, unfortunately for my wallet, I did hear them A/B'd and there is a difference. I felt that the M22s were always on top of the bass from the sub, while the M80s alone or with a sub just blended everything very well.

Now it may have been we didn't have the sub set up quite right for the M22's, or maybe Axioms brick wall 100hz max for their subs prevented a good blend, but the M80s being able to play down to 40hz evenly makes a huge difference in the feel of the music, IMO.

{{SING}} If you knew Sushi, like I knew Sushi........

Actually, I was post-Sushi.....

Save the Tuna !!