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It seems that the 3808 is the closest competitor to Onkyo's 875. Other than missing the Reon uprezing, are there any other notable differences between the two? Feature-wise I mean, not the stability/heat issues.

I've got a 905 set to arrive on Monday, so will see how it goes.

Last correspondence I saw from an S/N official said target MSRP is $1500. I have the brochure as a PFD. If you want it, PM me your email.

The Denon is network capable and you can stream directly to it from any computer on your network, no media adapters necessary. The network ability makes firmware updates very easy and allows you to listen to internet radio. The 3808 also has a very nice GUI to make setup and adjustments easier. I don't know if the Onkyo has the netowrking ability but I think that is the best part of the 3808 and as it has been mentioned it is rock solid.

That Onkyo doesn't have the networking ability. When I chose the 3808 I figured the networking ability was a fairly even trade for the lack of video chip (as I love the upgradability the PS3 has over the net, and know I'll use the streaming audio), but each person places a different priority on features. The nail in the coffin in my short-lived quest to get the 875 was when I read about all of the problems it had with lip synch and audio drop outs, especially with the DirecTV HR-20 HD DVR, which is the setup I have.

With that DVR, tons of people are reporting that every time you FF, RW, pause, etc., you get a 3-10 second audio drop out as it readjusts to the Dolby output from the DVR. I just could not imagine living with this after spending that kind of money. Then I said to myself, well, maybe a firmware upgrade would fix it before too long... then I realized that because it had no networking, updating the firmware would be a total pain... and that, naturally, led me to the 3808, which arrives at my house tomorrow!

Can you completely disable upconverting on the 3808? I don't want the AVR to touch the video since I have Toshiba XA2 and BD-P1400. Xbox360/PS3 doesn't require any upconverting either.

I may have to get yet another AVR and I'm thinking maybe I'll try out the Denon this time.

Thanks

Yes, you can just have the video pass through.

Can't you just wire it so only audio goes thru the receiver? Or is the TV missing some connections to have video go to it directly?

I can not see why you would want to run the audio to the receiver and run the video to the tv. The denon has a 'pass through' option so that it does not touch the video signal. Having 8 video connections come into the receiver and the only 1 hdmi going from the receiver to the tv is way too conveinent.

Also as I mentioned before this allows you to leave the tv on one input at all times, and just change the input on the receiver to switch components.

You can turn on or off upconversion for each input separately on the 3808. I have it set to off for Blu-ray, HD-DVD and DVD, and set to on for my Xbox 360. The only thing it does for inputs set to off is overlay the OSD when called upon.