Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners What would your advice be....upgrade or not?

Call the shipping company right now and tell them to ship the 60s back. The 80s are what you want and what you NEED .

Before settling on an M80 / Onkyo 805 combination, I highly recommend reading this thread I started last summer. In short, I returned the 805 and went with a separate amp (Axiom 1400-8) for my M80's. I know that's a huge step up, but forum users like terzaghi have had good luck running M80's with Denon AVRs.

* scratches head wondering what a typer is?! *

As long as we say the same thing, our messages reinforce each other. It's a good thing!

And here I was trying to be nice and not get him more confused and aggrevate the upgradeitis bug.

If the M60s are on their way, you at least owe it to yourself to have a listen before shipping them back, so you will at least have an idea of what the differences are and what you are paying $300 more for.

Well, that was a good read. Kind of a bummer though, I must admit. I was really kinda sold on upgrading to the M80s and later in the year picking up an amp to run just those. However, it sounds like it would be a bad idea running the M80s on the Onkyo by itself for any amount of time.

I really like the sound and performance of the Onkyo and besides this issue with not being able to handle a 4ohm load I have had no issues with the receiever at all. Even if I did, right now it would probably be little to much to swing trying to upgrade both the receiver (+$400) and the M80s (+320), so I think I will be staying with the M60s. My room is small, around 2200 cubic feet, and I am sure the differeces are not earth shattering. At least that is what I am going to tell myself. Thanks again for yours and everyone elses response. This is really a great friendly place for info.

FWIW - Given the size of your listening area, I think you're making the right decision for your situation. I haven't personally heard the M60's, but I know from reading here and many other places that they are held in very high regard. I look forward to hearing how your M60's sound with the 805.

Blu, regardless of your speakers, there's no need to think that your 805 needs an "upgrade"; this tests as a very powerful amplifier, including into 4 ohms, and should have no problem in most applications with either the M60s or the M80s(which use slightly less power). Disregard any suggestion in the manual or elsewhere to apply a lower impedance setting; all this does is to reduce the maximum power available.

I had 60's for years in a room that is almost 4 times bigger than yours, they are great speakers, don't let any of my 80's members fool ya.

Blu,

Do not be discouraged from buying the 80s and pairing them up with the 805. You will not need the massive amount of power that Haylo was trying to muster and besides, he was erroneously told to set it to 4 Ohms.

Do yourself a favor and get the 80s. I've had the good fortune to compare jakewash's 60s to my 80s and I can tell you that there is a definite difference. You won't know it until you hear it yourself but once you do, you'll understand how much better the 80s are. Once jakewash heard the difference, he upgraded.

You and your loved ones should not be cheated out of the opportunity to experience such a wonderful electroacoustic transducer .