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Axiom or Bowers-Wilkins
#202472 03/29/08 07:05 PM
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New here and i came across this site on random searches for info on wall mounted speakes, what i see and have read so far i like and am seriously considering the in-on wall epic master 175 or 350, now the main question is how would these speakers (hopefully someone can help) compair to a B&W pakage consisting of the VM6 for center and fronts:
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2509
in ceiling for rears CCM616
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=1619&pid=2061
and an ASW610 for the sub
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2363

now has any one had any experience with B&W and how is the build quality and sound quality between the two brands.

prices are comparable between the two systems.
and as far as powering the packages still up in the air between Onkyo Marantz or Yamaha took a look at the Sherwood Newcastle stuff here but a little more then i wanna spend.

what the system will be used for is about 50/50 music (like harder rock and techno) and dvd movies of all kinds...

any insights would help greatly

thanks...

-mike-




Re: Axiom or Bowers-Wilkins
duukiey #202476 03/29/08 07:30 PM
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I would expect the B&W's to sound very similar to their regular line just as the W series is nearly identical to the regular line of Axioms. I know that the Axioms sound more like the 700 series of B&W with much less cost involved.

Best thing I could suggest would be to check the Hearing Things forum to see if anybody is nearby(I am in Calgary if that helps) for an audition to see how the Axiom sound compares to what you are looking for. If you don't find anyone nearby, send Amie a PM and maybe she could get ahold of someone for you.


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jakewash #202494 03/29/08 08:33 PM
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Hi Mike,

The search tool may help as the B&W topic comes up often. As Jason mentioned, the Axiom In Walls were designed to have similar characteristics of their big brothers.

During my auditioning of different brands about 5 years ago, I preferred the Axiom m60's to the B&W 703's. The best option would be to audition in your area if possible by looking at the Axiom audition threads.


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SirQuack #202541 03/30/08 02:18 AM
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Let us assume that both speakers are built well and sound good. The Axiom people are very very very nice and you will have a worry free buying experience.


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Lampshade #202566 03/30/08 01:21 PM
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1/2 the price for the same sound doesn't hurt either.


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duukiey #202572 03/30/08 01:55 PM
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B & W make outstanding speakers. You're going to have to let your budget decide whether its worth the performance for price. One thing that won't be as good is their service compared to Axiom's.


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jakeman #202586 03/30/08 05:16 PM
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yah, after spending lots of time on here browsing i keep leaning close and close to axioms this seems like an awesome community to be a part of..

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duukiey #202593 03/30/08 07:18 PM
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...and I keep thinking "one more nudge and he's gonna fall". Geez!! Your leaning more than that tower in Piza! ;\)


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Re: Axiom or Bowers-Wilkins
fredk #202596 03/30/08 07:40 PM
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I was almost thinking of going with something like PSB, B&W or Paradigm before I found Axiom. They're all fine speakers, from what I'd heard from them. If you get them, I don't think you'll be unhappy with the quality.

It just starts getting really hard to spend $3-4k+ on JUST the fronts when Axiom could outfit your whole room for that much. (and not really sound much different.)

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duukiey #202846 04/01/08 08:31 PM
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I actually quite like B&W speakers, even though I don't own any of them. They are extremely well made speakers. A good friend is a B&W nut and has one pair of 801's in his 2 channel room, 802's as mains in his 5.1 channel room, and several other random pairs of 'old' B&W bookshelves from years past. I've heard them all. Yes, he's a nut.

When I was ready to make the move to M80's, I carefully considered moving to B&W's instead of Axiom. Budget-wise, that meant their 600 series. Careful listening tests at local shops revealed that the 600's are nice and have a pleasant (to some!) warmth to the midrange, but really couldn't produce the volume that I was after. The 700's sounded much better to me. Quite good, in fact. Much more Axiom-like in that the midrange wasn't so pronounced and that the overall feeling of the sound was better. Great soundstage and very dynamic. Of course, with the price tag of a pair of 703's I could buy a whole 5.1 Axiom setup.

So there it is.

There is most certainly more 'show-off' factor in buying B&W speakers over Axiom. Their speakers are, to a large degree, a work of art. The cabinets and cones are beautiful to behold, especially the kevlar ones. They are great speakers and they are priced accordingly. With Axiom, you're going to get a very similar level of sound quality but at a much more affordable price.

When I demoed my system for my buddy, he was quite impressed. He did have a few minor criticisms about their sound compared to his 801 system. Then I told him how much the M80's were and he almost didn't believe me. Considering that M80's are about 10% the cost of his 801's, and my M80's were being driven by components that were about 5% the cost of his, he admitted that they were pretty incredible.


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