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Re: What model model front do you have and why
Wish #205356 04/24/08 06:08 PM
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I will be ordering the M80 shortly. It was a simple decision for me. I wanted fronts for music first and the M80 just produces a nicer sound: more detail, more open top end, more bass.

My room dimensions are 11x20x8.

I didn't do enough listening with the M22 and M60 to give a very meaningful comparison. I was also comparing M22+sub vs M60.

I did comparisons up the line with several other makes of speakers and always found that the larger the speaker was, the more detail, bass and soundstage there were. The M22 is a little different in that regard though because of the driver configuration.

Don't know if that helps at all...


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Re: What model model front do you have and why
fredk #205385 04/24/08 09:39 PM
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I think the M80 posse would say that the M80s have more bass, more midrange and more detail.

My response to that would be to turn the volume down, dammit! \:\)


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Re: What model model front do you have and why
MarkSJohnson #205412 04/24/08 11:52 PM
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Dumb question: the M80 would *appear* to be the M60 with a second, identical midrange driver, yet the specs are slightly different. How does adding a midrange improve the bass and treble?

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anthony11 #205413 04/24/08 11:53 PM
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Note also the additional tweeter, and the 2 inches of increased height and 2 inches of increased depth--that last being a crucial part.


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Ken.C #205414 04/25/08 12:01 AM
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Oh duh. For some reason I'd thought the M60 had two tweeters.

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Wish #205459 04/25/08 04:19 AM
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Got the M80s.

Room size: 19x12x8

I considered bookshelves because I’m sitting close (7 feet) but decided to future proof myself with the M80s. Happy I did because the M80s allow me to feel the punch of the bass coming from the direction of the on screen explosions and such in movies. I also prefer how they sound with music over bookshelves. One problem is controlling the bass coming from them is harder do to placement constraints which wouldn’t be an issue if I was getting all my lower bass from just the subwoofer. But I feel it’s worth the tradeoff to feel the directional punch in the chest.


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Good responses with some surprises IMO.

1. Lots of people using the top of the line M80.
2. No one uses the M2 or M3 for fronts? The Axiom rep actually recommended the M2 for my setup (room size of 10' x 21' and 80/20 HT/music ratio).

For those using the M60 or M80 how many of you have a sub vs no sub (therefore counting on the M60/M80) for bass. I see in grunt's response he uses the M80 with no sub. How about the others?

I ask because I have an older Velodyne sub that I was going to replace with a Hsu. If the M60 can produce enough bass maybe I'd be better off just using the older sub and taking the money I would have spent on the sub and upgrading to the large towers.

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Wish #205489 04/25/08 02:34 PM
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FYI

I have my m80's in a 20x13 living room and they sound great.


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Re: What model model front do you have and why
terzaghi #205494 04/25/08 03:42 PM
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I went with the M60's for the following reasons.

1. If I bought M22s (and speaker stands) the price would be pretty close to the M60s so the M22s weren't a cost saving for me.

2. I thought the M60s were quite cost effective compared to the M80s and I thought they looked better with the grille on. Please don't take this as a slam against the M80s, they are Axioms flagship line and are amazing. For some reason I've never felt the need to upgrade to the M80s.

I am using them with a very old EP350, it's so old the serial number ends with "BC"

I will however admit to wanting to upgrade everything to the VaSSallo Series, at that time I'll decide if I want to move up to the 80s.

3. Room size is approx 21'x17' with an archway to the front hall.
Room has wall to wall carpeting, fireplace and many many (too many perhaps) bits of artwork on the wall. Also contains a sofa, sofa table coffe table, two end tables, 2 wing chairs and numerous other bits and bobs. Certainly not a "bright" room.

4. I made the decision to buy Axioms based on the design of the QS series of speakers, after that everthing else fell into place.

Good luck with your choice, I'm not sure there is really a "wrong" way to go, just a lot of "good" ones.

Re: What model model front do you have and why
FordPrefect #205514 04/25/08 06:08 PM
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 Originally Posted By: FordPrefect
2. I thought the M60s were quite cost effective compared to the M80s and I thought they looked better with the grille on. Please don't take this as a slam against the M80s, they are Axioms flagship line and are amazing. For some reason I've never felt the need to upgrade to the M80s.

I am using them with a very old EP350, it's so old the serial number ends with "BC"
Interesting. My current options given my $1500 budget are:
OPTION 1: M22s(fronts w/ stands) + VP100 + QS4 + new Hsu sub
OPTION 2: M60 + VP100 + QS4 + Use OLD sub (Velodyne CT-100)
OPTION 3: M60 + VP100 + Use old surround (Polk Audio RT f/x) + new Hsu sub
OPTION 4: M80 + VP100 + Use old surround (Polk Audio RT f/x) + Use old sub (Velodyne CT-100)

So you'd be similar to option 2 (new 5.0 & old sub). Of course this all depends on just HOW old and serviceable ones sub is. I'm really leaning to options 2 or 3 which is to move up to the M60 and make a sacrifice of either the surrounds or sub. IMO the sub is more important but I think I have more life in the sub than I do with my Polk surrounds.

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