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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
SRoode #207085 05/06/08 12:36 PM
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So, let's say, hypothetically, I want to do my own A/B comparison between these two subwoofers in my room. \:\/

If I were to set up such a scenario, one problem I see is that locating them next to one another is next to impossible in my room. I could place them in opposite corners (front/rear diagonal of one another) but since placement makes such a difference, does this defeat the whole purpose of an A/B comparison? I do now have a BFD parametric EQ, so I could tune both to a flat response at my main listening position and conduct the test after the tuning and setup had been done. If I added that into the comparative process, am I more likely to be doing a fair comparison?

Call me lazy, but with 250lbs of "subbage" between the two, I'm trying to avoid a lot of movement. I mean... if I were going to do this, I'd really want to avoid all that movement.

Jason


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
myrison #207088 05/06/08 02:15 PM
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There is three schools on comparing subs but all involve placing the subs in the same spot or right beside each other. One thought is to run them flat as is with the same material and walk around the room to develop impressions. The second way is to sit in the same spot always and equalize both to avoid inconsistencies such as using a parametric equalizer on one and not the other. The third way is to use whatever tools come with the sub such as a single shot equalizer, trim controls, variable phase etc. Most of the time these three approaches yield the same impressions but not always.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
jakeman #207093 05/06/08 03:28 PM
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Thanks John. I figured you'd say that. \:\)


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
myrison #207262 05/07/08 09:00 PM
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I have not really been keeping up with the sub scene, I just popped over to Craigsub's new website, and he has new rankings up. I guess AV123 released a new sub called the MFW-15 (15"), they sell duals for $998 currently, each with a 350watt amp, and according to his rankings, match the performance of a single Ultra 13 (but with better musicality).

Mojo, you need to order a couple of these and give us your impressions!

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

I am curious as to where the new EP350v3 would fit in. but that MFW-15 looks like a killer deal...unfortunately they are back ordered on the satin black until july!

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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
Hutzal #207264 05/07/08 09:25 PM
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Don't forget to add in the shipping costs for the subs up to us folks north of the 49th which nearly kills the deal. I have been debating on putting in an order for a single


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
jakewash #207267 05/07/08 09:42 PM
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from the looks of it, a single is 103 points, even with $100 extra shipping, thats $700 CAD, really, for that performance its a no brainer. I am moving to the states in the Fall...WOOOHOOO bring on the deals!

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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
Hutzal #207287 05/08/08 12:50 AM
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I think the shipping is a little more than $100, closer to $200, IIRC. Either way it is still a pretty good deal except if something goes wrong, then you get to add even more shipping charges.

Moving, Where to?


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
jakewash #207303 05/08/08 02:18 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I have been debating on putting in an order for a single

I would be willing to chip in on the shipping just to get a comparison to the EP350. You've done a lot of research 'on my behalf' so far.

This sub is awfully hyped so I am a little sceptical.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
fredk #207357 05/08/08 02:05 PM
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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
Hutzal #207371 05/08/08 03:40 PM
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That narrows it down.

I was born in Santa Paula. Lived in Bakersfield, My sister presently lives in Foster City, I had a friend living in Mountainview.....


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