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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
chesseroo #208727 05/21/08 04:37 AM
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Yeah chess, but I suppose that the claim is that the sound quality is really "transparent".


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
myrison #208741 05/21/08 09:55 AM
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Nice review/summary Jason, it just goes to show, as with speakers, the subwoofer decision still comes down to personal preferences.

I find it very annoying when Axiom subs get bashed by those on other forums when they have never heard them and/or go strictly by how they have tested, opposed to how they sound. I know alot of people that have heard Axiom subs compared to other quality subs prefer Axiom's warmer/smoother sound.

I hope to have enough time to sit and really play with the PB13 soon. I think I am willing to give up the warmth of the Axiom subs for the harder hit during movies of the SVS sub, that and the fact I need the box, as the vertical nor horizontal verion of the EP600 would work well in my room. I guess the EP500 might have to be ordered up and tried out to see if it fairs better or worse.

In my home I have found the SVS to have a fair bit of latent resonance, especially during the U-571 depth charge scene. I have also noticed the PB13 to have noticeably more power at lower volumes than it's smaller brethren I had here. During the opening battle scene in LOTR, when Sauron's(SP?) finger hits the ground I can now feel it clear across the room at my usual listening levels, my wife smiled at me when she felt it \:\).

I loved the sound the PB13 had when I was recently playing some Amanda Marshall and other newer artists with bass heavy tracks. For some of the older cd's I do find the punch of the PB13 somewhat out of place, as I do not recall the live performances having that punch, but sounding more like the EP600, I still have some time before the PB13 must be back so who knows what I will do, maybe buy an Axiom to go along with the SVS......hmmm......I could be a walking dead man.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
jakewash #208745 05/21/08 11:27 AM
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Nice review, thanks.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
DaveG #208821 05/21/08 06:39 PM
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Excellent report, Jason. You've done a great service for subsequent subwoofer seekers.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
tomtuttle #208880 05/21/08 09:24 PM
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Thanks Jason for all the time you put into this. I know how much time it takes to set one sub system up correctly, let alone two, then do the tuning and comparisons. A job well done!


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
SRoode #208913 05/22/08 12:04 AM
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Interesting review. I must say that I was expecting the differences between the two subs to be greater given the greater low extension of the PB13.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
fredk #208960 05/22/08 02:50 AM
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So was I Fred. I guess there just isn't much material that hits loudly below 20hz, or at least not in what I listen to/watch regularly.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
myrison #208976 05/22/08 08:58 AM
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 Originally Posted By: myrison
So was I Fred. I guess there just isn't much material that hits loudly below 20hz, or at least not in what I listen to/watch regularly.
Which is what I was saying in that other thread about the EP350 vs the competion, the lower extension really isn't noticed sonically but I believe it is noticed via lesser vibrations with the EP350 and EP600. The lower extension is more of a subtle feel than a blow you away sound, IMO.


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Re: Axiom EP600 vs. SVS PB13-Ultra
jakewash #208983 05/22/08 12:20 PM
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Agreed Jason. I noticed that occasionally as well when comparing the SVS and the 600, but it was indeed subtle. An example is on the opening scene of Toy Story 2 when Buzz light year is flying around corners and igniting his jet pack to accelerate. You hear the jet pack on both subs, but with the SVS I was pretty sure I could hear a slightly deeper rumble on some of the blasts. It was so subtle that I asked myself whether I was making it up in my brain knowing that the SVS went lower, but I'd say it's very probable that it was indeed the lower extension.

On "The Pulse" DVD (sub 20 hz sound), however, the difference was noticeable. Even though there wasn't a lot more audible volume with the SVS, I could feel the walls shaking and the room pressurizing decidedly more than the Axiom. This was nice, and was the trade off I feel one gets by choosing the SVS over the Axiom. However, in exchange you lose a bit of the warm envelopment I heard from the Axiom.

That's a long way of saying I agree with you. \:\)


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