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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
Ken.C #212076 06/18/08 07:06 PM
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I bet you play it louder then him considering he doesn't have one... YET!

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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
Nonpoint #212095 06/18/08 11:16 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Nonpoint
Axiom Folks,

I currently have the Axiom M80's and a 150 powered by an Emotiva IPS-1. What would improve my system's performance more: a more powerful amp or a sub? I currently don't have a sub and my room measures 18X20.

Any insight or experiences needed and appreciated.

Thanks!


My room is the same size. I have the A1400-8 and two EP-500 subs along with the same three front speakers. I turn the subs off for music as the bass from the M80s with the amp is quite sufficient and articulate. Since you have a very good seven channel amp already, I think you will not gain much for music if you buy a sub (or two). However, I think the .1 channel with LFE effects are really best reproduced with a good sub compared to the M80s. With the low frequency work delegated to the sub, your amp will also work more efficiently in the remainder of the frequency spectrum. So, if you like movies, especially if you like action movies, I would definitely recommend that you consider a sub before another amp.

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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
ihifi #212106 06/19/08 01:28 AM
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Definetly a sub \:\)

For years I was happy with the bass of My M80's on their own but once I tried out an EP600 in my system just to see how it sounded, I decided I HAD to get a sub. I have really been missing out all these years! Because I rarely use my system for watching movies. Its mainly only music but still you cant appreciate what a difference it will make until you get one.



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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
Nonpoint #212113 06/19/08 02:23 AM
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NP, welcome. It's pretty much no-contest for the sub, but I'll add-on. Since you're talking about speakers(M80s)which require slightly less power than most and already have a quite powerful amplifier, it's highly unlikely that you're exceeding the maximum power capability of your present amplifier. If not, no amplifier, regardless of maximum power capacity or cost, can improve your sound. Get that sub and enjoy.


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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
JohnK #212126 06/19/08 03:13 AM
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Again, great info and comments from everyone. Wow ihifi, 2 EP 500s!! I guess one EP600 won't be too much.

From what I'm hearing my multichannel music dvd's will definitely benefit from a brand new sub. I've been happy with my two channel sound with my pre-pro set to bypass, but multi-channel music was always lacking punch (or at least in my head). Hence, I've taken on a quest to improve my sound (i.e. make that bass drum reappear on concert dvd's).

Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
Nonpoint #212133 06/19/08 03:37 AM
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With subs you can never have too much as you dial it in to blend with the rest of the system, the left over power is there for dynamic peaks when needed. I went from the SVS PB12-NSD to the PB13-Ultra and I have the Ultra setup 3db lower than the PB12 was and I can feel the PB13-U more through out the room at the lower setting. With subs the more power, the better.


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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
jakewash #212154 06/19/08 10:30 AM
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Another vote for a sub.


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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
DaveG #212167 06/19/08 02:48 PM
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I'm late to the party, but +1 for the subs that have been mentioned.

The receiver or preamp/amp combo has less to do with the sound you hear than the speakers do.

This was one of my first lessons learned on the Axiom boards.

It has been more valuable than every other lesson except for "Don't ride in a car with Peter B. after he's eaten chili."


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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
medic8r #212170 06/19/08 03:19 PM
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Re: Axiom amp or Sub?
Ken.C #212178 06/19/08 04:15 PM
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Since when were we supposed to consider our neighbors when choosing equipment? My house backs on to a parking lot for a mall and which is 300-400 feet away and the security guard and odd workers quite enjoy my Paradigm Monitor 9's . Also I found moving to suburbia from the country the neighbors need something to soothe their souls \:\) . At my old house we had the lake!


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