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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
SirQuack #215475 07/17/08 02:01 AM
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To help the new members we should start talking about old stuff all over again. It'll be like a search tool in real time.


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
St_PatGuy #215477 07/17/08 02:46 AM
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Don't we do that already, with the constant, "which sub should I get" and "what is the difference between M60/M80." questions.


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
jakewash #215480 07/17/08 02:57 AM
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Oh yeah, we do.

It's like a constant progression--as the new guys come along their questions get answered, then as the new guys get some posts under their belts they answer to the even newer guys, and so forth and so on.

Then the old guard comes marching in and hijacks the thread. . .


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
St_PatGuy #215482 07/17/08 03:31 AM
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Hijacking like the Pirates of the Caribbean. \:\)


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
HomeDad #215486 07/17/08 03:47 AM
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Savvy.


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
St_PatGuy #215491 07/17/08 07:21 AM
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I declare the thread officially hijacked...

LOL..

Anyway, only found one post mentioning the 704S, another comparing against the 683S.

I happen to know someone who just bought a pair of 683S, so i'll invite myself for an audition : ).

Keep the insights and comments flowing!

Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
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Sorry for double posting, but i noticed in the FR charts for the M22, M60 and to a lesser extent the M80, the treble response starts dropping quite drastically at about 16kHz and is -10dB by 20kHz.

Is this physically audible? How does it compare with speakers that have flat response up to 25kHz or even 40kHz? I would imagine it being described a 'airy'. After all, most people can't really hear 20kHz.

Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
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I believe Alan has mentioned in the past this drop off was an anomaly of the anehoic chamber. I for one have not noticed any problems in the upper FR.


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
jakewash #215496 07/17/08 12:41 PM
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Yep, and I don't believe all speaker companies provide graphs in an anechoic environment, which gives you the best indication of the speakers performance.


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Re: M60 / M80 vs B&W 804S - Opinions and experiences
SirQuack #215537 07/17/08 07:19 PM
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It appears a number use a quasi-anehoic setup and some don't show below 100-200hz.


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