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Re: Cheater plugs
pmbuko #205338 04/24/08 04:43 PM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Turnips are the smartest vegetables around.

Nope, apparently that title goes to broccoli.


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Re: Cheater plugs
Ken.C #205350 04/24/08 05:25 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I'd like to hear from an electrician about the safety of doing this.


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Take a pair of side-cuts and snip the little ground thingy off at the roots. It will then fit nicely into a two-pronged outlet!


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Re: Cheater plugs
Joey #205367 04/24/08 07:42 PM
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Better yet, just drill a 7/8" deep, 3/8" diameter hole centered 1/2" below the midpoint between the exiting prong sockets and you're golden. \:\)

Re: Cheater plugs
pmbuko #205401 04/24/08 10:23 PM
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Now that's safe!


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Re: Cheater plugs
Ken.C #205834 04/28/08 07:58 PM
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OMG, I'm just reading this whole thread now.

Looks like Axiom needs to add a new accessory to it's store.




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Re: Cheater plugs
Murph #207059 05/06/08 02:25 AM
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I would be careful at rewiring or altering the wiring of an apartment. If there is ever an electrical fire, you could be in one heck of a liability problem!


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Re: Cheater plugs
ratpack #216427 07/26/08 03:28 PM
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The Rat makes good sense here, which is why I abandoned this thread awhile back. But I'm thinking again, now that my EP350's cheater plug has fallen out of the wall for the 500th time (or been pulled by a certain little someone.) I found a 6" (yes, inch) 2 prong extension cord at Rat Shack. I have no idea what the gauge is, but I'm guessing 16 ga. Would this be safe to use from the wall to the cheater plug to the EP350? Obviously it wouldn't be grounded, but since I have that ol' ground loop problem, I don't necessarily want it grounded anyway.

However, I have other outlets with cheater plus hanging out that I do want grounded. So what would happen (potentially bad) if I were to use the same arrangement but also run a bit of wire from the screw on the wall plate to the little tab on the cheater plug? If I were to do this, should I use solid 14 gauge or the like?


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Re: Cheater plugs
Ken.C #216479 07/27/08 02:53 AM
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Ken, if I follow, you're not using "safe" in relation to grounding, but as to whether the gauge of the wire is adequate. As we briefly discussed the other day on an extension cord question, all the usual size extension cords(even 18 gauge with a 10 amp rating)have more than enough current carrying capacity for the rather modest needs of a sub amp. It's stuff like hair dryers and hot plates that carry a heavier load.


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Re: Cheater plugs
JohnK #216483 07/27/08 03:43 AM
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Yes, my second idea would be safe as it refers to grounding. That one I'm really unsure about, as I have found no products (short of a cord meant for Japan?) that fit my description.

As I understand it, due to the very short length of the extension cord in question (1 foot), the resistance, and therefore gauge, shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Cheater plugs
Ken.C #216485 07/27/08 04:07 AM
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After a little bit of reading, it would seem that I'm fine on the sub (or as fine as I am now, without the ground tab screwed in) with the little extension cord. However, it would seem that my second idea (the independent ground wire) is just asking for trouble. It might work, but it might kill me or my family, too--I simply do not know, and a little inconvenience is vastly preferable.


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