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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
fredk #219908 09/04/08 09:46 PM
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Just for the sake of it, how low/high is the volume on the EP-500 itself?


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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
EFalardeau #219909 09/04/08 09:49 PM
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You got... $4000 worth of speakers for $4000.

OK.

The crossover on the sub itself should be at bypass. Does your Pioneer have per-channel crossovers, or is it a global setting for all channels?


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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
EFalardeau #219910 09/04/08 09:51 PM
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Oh, maybe I should just turn it up to 11 on the dial? (shameless spinal tap reference). My reciever actually wouldn't self calibrate until I set it down to about 1/2 volume. Once it was done calibrating, I turned it back all the way up.

Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
Ken.C #219911 09/04/08 09:54 PM
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As far as I know it's just a global setting. 1 thing I did notice is that if I set the front speakers to large...it won't turn on the sub.... i have to set them to small. Any thoughts?

Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
jwright350 #219912 09/04/08 09:56 PM
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Wait wait wait...

What was set at 1/2 volume, the EP500? You shouldn't have ears left...

Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Pioneers to tell you about the large setting, but I suspect there are a number of different settings that play into this.

Did you do the full equalization calibration? If possible, turn off the equalization portion of it. You might like it better.


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Ken.C #219913 09/04/08 09:58 PM
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I know, I'm a n3wb with 5 posts and you have 9,750... but all that shows is that you have more time on your hands than I do. You don't have to be so arrogant as to assume I was expecting my ears to start bleeding. I'll check into the EQ thing. I'm still new to a reciever not having bass/treble dials. LOL

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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
jwright350 #219916 09/04/08 10:16 PM
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No, no, I'm just confused about where the subwoofer volume was set. I have an EP350, and wouldn't dare turn it up past 1/4, if even that. If you had it at 1/2, and now you have it turned up all the way, there's a problem with that sub.

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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
Ken.C #219918 09/04/08 10:29 PM
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Okay, now you have 6 posts.

What Ken's post total demonstrates - among other things - is that he has spent considerable time trying to help people with Axiom speakers.

Since you clearly could use some assistance, perhaps asking questions about setup and calibration would have been a more gracious way to introduce yourself than to "Warn prospective buyers" and complain about not getting freebies.


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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
jwright350 #219920 09/04/08 11:53 PM
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Jwright350 If you haven’t yet check the volume that your recever set the subwoofer channel to when you ran the auto calibration. My Denon 2807 will set my EP500 to -5.5dB with the sub’s volume control dial set at the 6:30 position. It may be you got it just into the range that the receiver could lower the volume to get the sub down to what the receiver thinks it should be which usually sounds anemic to me.

I don’t think anyone is try to be rude but are just astonished. For example my room is 20x20x8 and with just my M80s running off my weak Denon I can cleanly get 95dB out of them at 2 meters. If I kick the EP500 into the mix they are all total putting out 108dB. Just for reference standing right under the jet I work on it only puts out 112dB with all 4 engines idling. If you gave the M80s 400 watts you could get them alone without the sub to play that loud at 2 meters with 3dB of headroom left.

As others have suggested try turning off any auto EQ and doing the “sub crawl” to find a good place for it.

You have some serious equipment there. As one reviewer put it the M80s are capable of playing cleanly at dangerous levels. So something sounds likes it’s amiss in the receivers setup. that’s one reason I don’t even use the auto calibration for anything more than setting speaker distances because I find that it sets things all wrong for my tastes.

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Re: Just got my Epic 80 7.1 and I'm underwhelmed
tomtuttle #219921 09/04/08 11:55 PM
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My room is 31ft x 30ft x 9ft and if I have my 600 more than about 7 o'clock the foundation starts to crumble.


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