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Speaker setting to small or large?
#220929 09/13/08 05:32 PM
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Hello Everyone,

I'm a new proud owner of the Epic 80/500 system. It only has been a few days but I've already lost lots of sleep. Great speakers!!!

I have a Yamaha Rx-V1800 receiver. What setting do you recommend for speaker settings...small or large? At what crossover frequency should I set the sub on my receiver and do I match that frequency with the knob on the back of the 500 sub?

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Stanmanh

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stanmanh #220934 09/13/08 05:43 PM
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Conventional wisdom calls for setting all speakers to small. The crossover at the sub should be turned up to its maximum setting (effectively taking it out of the equation), and set the AVR crossover to 80Hz. You can adjust the AVR up or down a bit to suit your room and tastes.


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Joe_in_SC #220937 09/13/08 06:27 PM
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I agree with this convential wisdom. Definitely let the sub amp handle 100% of the lowest frequencies. Given the M80's bass capabilities, however, do try 60Hz as well as 80Hz (only if your amp or receiver allows different settings for each channel -- 80Hz is what you'll need for the other speakers). Your ears will tell you whether a 60Hz setting for the M80s is better in your particular environment. Your M80s may love that 60-80 range!

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stanmanh #220938 09/13/08 06:30 PM
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Hi Stanmanh,

I also own the Epic 80/500 system and couldn’t be happier with it. The conventional wisdom the Joe_in_Ct cites is a great starting point. This reiterates what he said and expands on the reasoning behind it.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/sub_setup.html

There are many other helpful articles where that one came from.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/newsletter_index.html

One thing I always tell people is that this is your home theater so while following convention is a quick convenient way to get things up and running if you have the time and inclination experimenting may yield you even more impressive results.

For example for 5.1 and 7.1 listening my M80s are crossed over at 60Hz rather than 80Hz. I sit very close to them and like the added feel of the explosions hitting me from the direction they appear on the screen.

Also I’ve found that in my room the L/R surrounds sound better a little farther back than the Dolby standard, even when used in a 7.1 configuration.

Other people have there own experiences and preferences so I say play with your new toys. I’ve had mine for a year and a half and I’m still discovering new things about my Axioms that blow me away.

Cheers,
Dean


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All to small with a 80hz crossover to start. If your receiver allows for different crossover settings for each individual speaker, you could experiment a little based on the frequency response of each speaker. Either way, you want the crossover on the sub to be out of the equation, so turn it to bypass, or clockwise all the way.


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Don't listen to grunt!! You'll wake up one morning with a big headache and an upside down M80 over your screen. ;\)


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fredk #221235 09/16/08 04:56 PM
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Are there any thoughts on setting crossover to 60 with M60's?


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Argon #221240 09/16/08 05:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure I can't make individual crossover settings on my Denon so I have never tried, but I think an M60 would be well worthy of the experiment. It probably becomes subjective to your tastes until you go so low that the low end starts to be underpowered. I know some have posted lower settings for their capable mains and some even make adjustments based on weather or not the content is movie or music.


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Murph #221242 09/16/08 05:50 PM
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I have my M80s set at 40, so I don't see 60 being a problem with the 60s. In fact I think I used to have my M50s set at 60.


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Ken.C #221244 09/16/08 05:56 PM
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60 on the M60 should work very well and allow you to take advantage of the lower playing abilites of the floor stander.


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