Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions Good receiver for M3's?

John,

Speakers don't break in, your brain breaks in and becomes accustomed to them over time. Any break in only takes seconds or less and happens at the factory.

The Axiom m3's are very efficient (92dB at 1watt and 1meter distance) and can easily be driven by any decent receiver.

It is my understanding that all solid state receivers are designed to have a flat frequency from 20hz to 20khz. So sonically they should be neutral and not color the sound. If you adjust tone controls like bass/treble, or some of the built in DSP modes that affect the frequency or EQ, then you may introduce brightness or a laid back sound.

I think the only difference would be in the quality of the guts inside the receivers, but in the same price point they should be pretty comparable.

Yeah, I think that is how it works. I would call them and ask how much you would have to pay for the m22's if you sent the m3's back.

John, in other places you've apparently been reading a lot of old audiophiles' tales that have no factual support. As Randy has pointed out, amplifiers, including those in receivers, don't come in various sonic inaccuracies("warm", "bright", etc.); if competently designed they amplify within their power limits without adding an audible sonic coloration. There's no significant "break-in" period involved with speakers; in some cases the ears(actually the mind)are breaking-in and becoming accustomed to the new sound of the speakers.

The amount of current necessary for a given amount of power into a specific load impedance is determined by Dr. Ohm's law, not by manufacturer hype. If the required amount of power can be supplied into the load being driven, as is typical of modern receivers, that's all that can be done. There's no need to take typical "high current" claims seriously.

I beg to differ. A lot of amps have their own sound - I've heard it with my own ears.

Why hang on to them if you are unhappy with the way they sound? I have heard the M3s and I know they are not for me, I have the M22s and a set of M80s, if you like the more forward sound then send back the M3's while you can as the return shipping is free for the upgrade to the M22's, you will not regret it.

I never liked the sound I had from a low end Sony receiver I had briefly with the M22s it just seemed to lack power, I really had to crank up the volume knob to get it to work. That was when I spent a few more bucks and bought my first Denon, an 1804, and the SQ difference was night and day, well more the power available more than the SQ, as the Sony sounded ok as long as I had the gain turned up to about 2/3.

Send back the M3s and get the M22s, I think they have the sound your looking for.

Shane, in most blind A/B listening tests the users have a hard time distinguishing from a $300 AVR and $2,000 tube amps, especially at normal listening levels.

This topic gets beat to dealth and has people on both sides of the issues. I will tell you that my Denon 2805 sounds no different than when I use my Monoblocks at normal levels.

Hi John1972,

Despite Sony's excellent TV and video displays over the years, I've always found Sony's audio gear and AV receiver electronics (CD players excepted) to have glitches or annoying performance lapses. I say this as a former editor and equipment reviewer for audio and AV magazines both in Canada and the USA. Based on that experience there are certain brands of stereo and AV receivers that are generally very good or excellent. These include: Denon, Harman-Kardon, Yamaha, Sherwood Newcastle (Axiom sells the Newcastles on-line) and NAD.

At Axiom, we've found that some of these also seem to have more robust amplifier sections that are able to drive even our 4-ohm M80 tower speakers without overheating, shutting down or current-limiting. Those brands include Denon, H/K, Sherwood Newcastle, and NAD plus some more costly brands like Rotel and B&K. In times past, I would have included Onkyo, but in recent years some of their models have been problematic driving 4-ohm loads. For higher impedances of 6 to 8 ohms, Onkyo, Yamaha and Pioneer are fine.

Regards,

You're right, it does get done to death. I'll just tape my mouth shut and move on